What new class and or battle mechanics do you wish 4.0 will bring?

**Sandpark** · 10-02-2016 09:23 PM

Sprint duration increased 5 seconds and cooldown decreased by 5 seconds.
Sprint to cost a new energy source called Energy
Energy would be a new resource applied to evasive and movement maneuvers for all jobs that will be used frequently to deal with mechanics.
Certain Account Wide mounts and companions to make playing alts more feasible

**BraveheartRamo** · 10-02-2016 09:57 PM

Beast master would be interesting.

**loreleidiangelo** · 10-02-2016 10:59 PM

Originally Posted by mp-please

The day war gets a class that competes directly with it is the day PLD and DRK die as there will not be a single reason to not take 2 overpowered tanks over a PLD/DRK.

Composition meta as a whole needs a total rework. Healers get SOME barrier against a SCH and future SCH-type healer comp because shields don't stack, but tanks have no such overlap. If shields ever didn't not stack, or SE decides to try a HoT-based healer that puts out ridiculously effective practical DPS while still being able to support an entire group in an 8-man, WHM and MAYBE AST (though they'll get some insulation because of their DPS-boosting card buffs) can kiss their raid spots goodbye.

Healer throughput in this game is BEYOND ridiculous, and that's why the healer meta is so borked to begin with. There's a few things that I think are scaled too high in this game, and that makes healing "easy to get into" for beginners but absolutely snooze-worthy at higher skill levels, which is why the whole "healers should DPS" thing started to begin with. On the healer subforums, there's always been a lot of calls for "can we please make HEALING actually harder in this game, and not MAXIMIZING DPS as a healer harder???", which unfortunately always leads to the thought process of, "but that would edge bad players out of ever healing", and I guess for this game at least that's seen as an unjustifiable casualty. I admit, I play other MMOs where yeah, you get a crap-ton of scrutiny as a healer, and it's a stressful role, and people sometimes blame you for crap that isn't your fault because they expect you to just heal through all of their mistakes, but the assumption is that you know that picking it up and do so BECAUSE you like that challenge, and like the feel of supporting your party. You don't pick it up because the healer gears are pretty or because you think the spell effects make you look like a sparkle princess or because you want to get faster queues for your dungeons (some people do this in other games, but they usually never last).

I'm kinda torn. On the one hand, I want people to like healing, because I do, but on the other hand, I don't want it to be so easy that the top-end healer players are left with literally NOTHING to do in their endgame content EXCEPT DPS, just because "we had to scale healer moves really high so that bad healers don't cause endless wipes in expert roulette". Even THEN, healers of most every skill and play ability are still able to DPS in that content, because they have so many "get out of derp free" cards with our insanely overpowered healer kit that it's almost systemically IMPOSSIBLE to see a failed healing check in this game. (I know, I've read the "Tales from the DF" thread, I know it's not IMPOSSIBLE, but seriously, that thread in and of itself should be a warning sign as to how tanking and healing are too powerful in this game, given that these terrible groups are STILL somehow making it to endgame content.)

tl;dr I'd love to see a LOT of tank and healer moves scaled down with 70 content, because right now those two roles are being judged more by how much they can DPS rather than what niche they're filling with their primary role. Getting another "WAR-type" tank and a "SCH-type" healer won't necessarily help the broken meta, because depending on the new jobs' individual gameplay styles class-stacking will just be what happens, not class diversity.

**CosmicKirby** · 10-02-2016 11:01 PM

Originally Posted by mp-please

The day war gets a class that competes directly with it is the day PLD and DRK die as there will not be a single reason to not take 2 overpowered tanks over a PLD/DRK.

Hmm, true. TBH there's as significant of a problem with Tanks as there is with Healers in raid composition, though, at its core I like the idea of there being 2 sub-roles within tanks similar to Mitigation/Throughput healers. Although I'm afraid Square's answer might be to just make fights not require significant tankswaps, and instead make a fight that demands one tank never leave tank stance while the other can dance into it while picking up adds or something.

**ErikMynhier** · 10-03-2016 12:57 AM

Red Mage close range DPS/Support (think a melee bard that uses INT instead of DEX with party buffs)

All the exercice emotes.

Gigi/Vivi minion.

New two handed hammer tank class that's lore shows it comes from the lessons of Imperial generals. Hell call it Judge.

Personal rooms added to personal houses. The owner adds them for personal use or for tenants. SM - 4, MD - 5, and LG - 6. The owner has full control of said rooms as do any tenant given access.

Allow me to grant joint ownership or at least tenant status to my alts.

All the mammet enemies in the various 60+ dungeons as minions.

And are we ever getting the promised "let minions roam your house" feature? If so then that as well.

**shao32** · 10-03-2016 01:28 AM

Originally Posted by loreleidiangelo

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im agreed they need to improve tanking/healing meta more, and i hope the jobs balance go in to that way, dps is nice but is a little sad how all the gameplays fly around only to find room for more dps.

**CaptainLagbeard** · 10-03-2016 01:34 AM

The only mechanic that comes into mind is giving BRD or MCH the ability to move while casting, outside of PvP at least...

But for class stuff...
Give BRD the Regen song Jehentel uses in the lvl 50 BRD quest and give MCH an equivalent ability.

Give MRD that line AoE that a whole bunch of enemy NPC Marauders use...

And I want Time Mage class.

**Oridan** · 10-03-2016 01:55 AM

Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard

And I want Time Mage class.

Oooh, I'd like that too. What could be their weapons though? A magic hourglass maybe? :P

**Xiao_** · 10-03-2016 02:05 AM

Originally Posted by Duelle

Dancer: Tank

I would love this, a dodge tank. But as I understand it, Final Fantasy fans are like rabid dogs and would literally castrate Yoshi for changing something like that.

**Duelle** · 10-03-2016 05:14 AM

Originally Posted by Xiao_

I would love this, a dodge tank. But as I understand it, Final Fantasy fans are like rabid dogs and would literally castrate Yoshi for changing something like that.

Why? DNC was worse off as a healer because it was relegated to soloing stuff (meaningless in a game built from the ground up on partying) and a survivability subjob for those that didn't want to burn money on Shihei for Utsusemi via /NIN. Sure, in theory DNC as a healer sounds nice, but the actual practical applications of the job were VERY far off the mark.

This said, here. I still say this would definitely work and give an alternative aesthetic beyond "a guy in plate armor" for people who want to tank.

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