Revelations from Patch 3.4

[PotatoTree]

Can someone clarify one thing for me:

Did the derplander die? He said he wanted to go home but Alphinaud said something after about them actually returning to the lifestream?

[Cilia]

Can someone clarify one thing for me:

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If I remember right yes, Darklander and co. did end up dying as a result of returning to the First Shard... though I'm not sure why.

[ZhaneX]

Can someone clarify one thing for me:

Did the derplander die? He said he wanted to go home but Alphinaud said something after about them actually returning to the lifestream?

If I remember right yes, Darklander and co. did end up dying as a result of returning to the First Shard... though I'm not sure why.

The implication was...

That the Warriors of Darkness killed themselves in their original Shard to become beings like the Ascians who inhabited crystals in the Source.. In desiring to return to their Shard, they would apparently lose this capability, and thus truly die and return to the Lifestream.

[Cilia]

The implication was...

Well, the thing is...

I got that they essentially became disembodied aetherial spirits like the Ascians, I'm just not sure how or why returning to the First Shard would cease their existence. Only question I really still have from the MSQ, aside from "How the hell did Nero get into Cartenau?!"

[ZhaneX]

Well, the thing is...

I got that they essentially became disembodied aetherial spirits like the Ascians, I'm just not sure how or why returning to the First Shard would cease their existence. Only question I really still have from the MSQ, aside from "How the hell did Nero get into Cartenau?!"

Eh, personally I just chalk it up to "Just how things work".

They gave up their mortal lives to become disembodied spirits in the Source, but I don't particularly see a reason why that existence would continue upon their return. Thus in returning, they give up that disembodied form, and pass on as normal.

[Fenral]

Eh, personally I just chalk it up to "Just how things work".

They gave up their mortal lives to become disembodied spirits in the Source, but I don't particularly see a reason why that existence would continue upon their return. Thus in returning, they give up that disembodied form, and pass on as normal.

Which is precisely why Ascians of the Source need to borrow bodies or risk disappearing into... Nope, Ascians play by the exact opposite rules, requiring a host to manifest only in worlds besides their own, where they can apparently come and go freely as aetherforms.

"Established rules be damned, we want to make it bittersweet" is just how this game rolls. And my eyes every time it happens, but meh.

[Morningstar1337]

I can't help but wonder

if the First's status as a void devoid of all life had something to do with this? Maybe its not just the WoDs that went to the Lifestream, but everyone that was in the first as well. Only that there was no Lifestream to go to causing the souls to be in a state of limbo until Minfilia reverses the situation.

If that's the case, it might explain the discrepancy a little. There would b e two sides, material and metaphysical, and the latter has to be recreated first to continue the circle of life before working on the material side. The reason being the souls are in a state of Limbo, dead but unable to reincarnate because of the lack of lifestream, so Minfilia has to create a destination for the souls to be converted into aether first and then recreate the material realm to give the new aether a destination to form.

tl;dr. The WoD are dead because the metaphysical side had to be recreated first, leaving no room for their physical bodies. A simpler theory would be that they willingly sundered their souls again to be reborn with the rest of the First or that the void thing meant there were no bodies for them back there..