Black Mage Sanctuary - A Guide to DPS

[frostfirefawcett]

BLM is really good in A9S and A10S, I've only done a few pulls of A11S so I can't comment on that or A12S.

I think SMN is still better on A9S. You can pretty much solo most of the adds and keep the melee on boss. Also, your DoTs will continue ticking full potency for mini. Though with more gear as always, BLM will really shine because you would probably end up skipping those minis anyway. A10 is pretty much equal for both jobs, I THINK(haven't tested yet, will test next week) you DoT the vulnerability up adds and bane them of to the boss which would actually be crazy good. But again, with more gear people will easily skip that part(already almost skipped it in not even full crafted and no Sophia weapons). A11S on the other hand, is absolutely cancerous on BLM. I have took it in a few runs then I switched to SMN after 4 pulls or so, there's actually no scenario ever where a BLM should be beating or close to SMN on A11S assuming equal level. Though I think with more gear it will be okay to have 1/2 stacks so you can turret alot more than you can now.

I think SMN on A11S saved us alot of time for the kill to be honest, especially considering how greedy I can be on BLM ;_;

[Karja]

BiS probably: http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/VNJ2

Penta melded choker is better than the other two.
http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/VSUW should be better but nothing is completly certain till we know the exact acc cap.

[frostfirefawcett]

Penta melded choker is better than the other two.
http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/VSUW should be better but nothing is completly certain till we know the exact acc cap.

We already know the exact accuracy caps and it's the same as A8S, so neither of those builds are BiS. This is the BiS I am working on for BLM but instead of Apple Strudel you use the new Spell Speed/Crit food that's unfortunately still not listed in Ariyala.

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/VTVY

[Karja]

No idea why you think your build is better, the penta melded choker is BIS.

I excluded your food btw:

Your build:
1594 INT
758 Crit (153.7224)
607 Det (99.9729)
1186 SS (450.9172)

total of

2298.6125

The build I linked:

1582
726 Crit (147.2328)
585 Det (96.3495)
1258 SS (478.2916)

total of

2303.8739

[Cherub]

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/VTYV
If only the gloves and the hat piece were crit/SS. Might go with Teak Choker, unsure still.

As for food, fondaulge or something is Spellspeed crit IIRC, I'll be going with that.

Why did we get such an extreme amount of accuracy if the accuracy cap hasn't changed. I thought A9S is the same as A8S but A12S also being the same? Sounds weird.

[frostfirefawcett]

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/VTYV
If only the gloves and the hat piece were crit/SS. Might go with Teak Choker, unsure still.

As for food, fondaulge or something is Spellspeed crit IIRC, I'll be going with that.

Why did we get such an extreme amount of accuracy if the accuracy cap hasn't changed. I thought A9S is the same as A8S but A12S also being the same? Sounds weird.

They didn't change accuracy caps because healers wouldn't be able to cap accuracy without crafted gear and/or relic otherwise.

HQ new food stats:

Effects
Spell Speed +5% (Max 53)
Vitality +5% (Max 55)
Critical Hit Rate +3% (Max 24)

[frostfirefawcett]

No idea why you think your build is better, the penta melded choker is BIS.

I excluded your food btw:

Your build:
1594 INT
758 Crit (153.7224)
607 Det (99.9729)
1186 SS (450.9172)

total of

2298.6125

The build I linked:

1582
726 Crit (147.2328)
585 Det (96.3495)
1258 SS (478.2916)

total of

2303.8739

My bad, I didn't see that your build had no food.

[Lavitz_]

I think SMN is still better on A9S. You can pretty much solo most of the adds and keep the melee on boss. Also, your DoTs will continue ticking full potency for mini. Though with more gear as always, BLM will really shine because you would probably end up skipping those minis anyway.

True, but BLM is still very good. There's no reason to switch to SMN on that fight if you already enjoy BLM, unless doing speedkills or something.

A11S on the other hand, is absolutely cancerous on BLM. I have took it in a few runs then I switched to SMN after 4 pulls or so, there's actually no scenario ever where a BLM should be beating or close to SMN on A11S assuming equal level. Though I think with more gear it will be okay to have 1/2 stacks so you can turret alot more than you can now.

I think SMN on A11S saved us alot of time for the kill to be honest, especially considering how greedy I can be on BLM ;_;

FeelsBadMan. I still haven't gone back in, but I'm gonna give it a try on BLM tonight. Honestly I'm not up to the same level on SMN so I don't know if it would be worth it for me to switch, but I'm gonna be practicing anyway in case it comes to that.

How's A12S? I assume you're playing SMN?

I'm liking this for a BiS, if the acc cap is really the same as A8S: http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/VUM0

Unfortunate we probably won't be using the Alexandrian body, but it utilizes every other SS piece.

[StouterTaru]

Stat weight math

Old numbers weren't accurate; they were based off a simulator that came up with 10% off cast time = 20% more damage, without factoring party buffs or movement.

Even if those numbers were accurate for 3.2, they are different now that we have different INT. Stat weights are zooming in on a curve so far that it looks like a straight line. ex Crit hit stat weight formula is roughly:

weight = 1 / (sqrt[( ((crit-354)/4300)^2 + 0.5*((crit-354)/4300) + 1.0225) (INT + 1)/INT - 0.96] - 0.25 - ((crit-354)/4300) )

Crit hit rate buffs lower that a little, but we don't have access to Internal Release, so it's just litany.

[frostfirefawcett]

snip.

A12S is amazing on Summoner up until last phase. Like, there are so many adds, so many movement in the fight that you really can't afford to play greedy or you will wipe the whole raid and double virus there is a godsend. I will probably give BLM a try on all fights once we are done with progression but right now, SMN is destroying those fights.