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  1. #131
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    Lan_Mantear's Avatar
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    Lan Mantear
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    I already pay subscription once a month, plan to buy the streams, live in a country that's falling apart (America), I cannot afford this.
    Then don't buy it, and don't begrudge the people who do all those same things, while also living in, America, and can afford it.
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  2. #132
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    Windi Skywalker
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lan_Mantear View Post
    The sarcasm went over your head. This was likely intended to poke fun of a recent SJW thread.
    Quote Originally Posted by KaitlanKela View Post
    I think this was tongue-in-cheek. I could be wrong
    I'm fully aware it was sarcastic and had a certain context. That's what made it disgusting and thus I am telling them to keep their mouth's shut.
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  3. #133
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    Quote Originally Posted by Windi View Post
    I'm fully aware it was sarcastic and had a certain context. That's what made it disgusting and thus I am telling them to keep their mouth's shut.
    You must be fun at parties.
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  4. #134
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    MicahZerrshia's Avatar
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    Nadja Zielle
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Just putting this out there, ESO does it right. You get a credit equal to the amount you pay for a sub in their crown store.

    Charging for a sub + retainers + having a high cost cash shop without a system like this is a slap in the face.
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  5. #135
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    Sakura Princess
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    choose what you want to buy, if the demand meet, then the price is not a problem.. if u think it is overprices and not the item you want to buy, then lets just get over it.. and it is just glamours, not stuffs that will help u kill endgame.. i dont even buy that moggle mount coz it is not what i wanted too..
    btw im pretty glad that SE put the stuffs in mogstation to sell esp this religion exclusive items and it is just USD18... you ppl wont want it ended up like that GAMEMASTER Magazine(promotional event) for the maid attire, it wasted more time and money into mag/stuffs we don't need..
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  6. #136
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    Teryaani's Avatar
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    Sonja Djt-bidit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aivi_lo View Post
    Urban dictionary lol bout a million entries in there better gear huh? Better as in prettier? Again a difference of opinion OK I'll stop now.
    "I would consider in terms of items, optional things that would change the aesthetics like your skin color or your race but not your stats. If it’s like the Ring of Yoshida, it’s cool but it can cross the line and help you clear end game content and help you beat certain monsters. That has the risk of people calling the game pay-to-win. That’s not something I want to do." - Naoki Yoshida

    -Read more at http://www.gamerevolution.com/featur...TqxV1ucClIX.99

    Emphasis mine.
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  7. #137
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    Ekhi Ysengrim
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    I bought Benny the day it was released and used it for like a week. I haven't really bought anything since then but a couple Phantasia. Not really planning on buying from there again. Not at those prices. I really wanted the dress or Stola's hair, but not that much.
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  8. #138
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    Nhai Tayuun
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    Quote Originally Posted by RethDaron View Post
    it would have to offer an advantage players can't get unless they pay to make it fit that term.
    Actually, that's not really true. Even the "official" (calling urban dictionary official hurts..xD) definition is about buying stuff that gives you a significant edge over other players, but never mentions it has to be completely unobtainable for those who do not pay.

    A very common - and dreaded - version of P2W is fully upgraded/enchanted/melded/etc. endgame gear that can be bought in the CS, because by paying, you instantly have the strongest gear available in the game.
    Said gear is usually not unobtainable ingame - it's just fairly hard to get. It also eliminates any and all motivation to even bother working on getting it ingame when everyone can just whip out their credit card and get it that way.
    THAT's what most people talk about when they are talking about P2W.

    Also, even by your standards, this could qualify - because it is the ONLY non-head exp bonus item in the entire game. You can not obtain that in any other way than by buying it from the Mogstation, so yeah, we have effectively hit "P2W".
    It's not exactly a problematic area yet (because exp is already an overabundance), but it is a dangerous first step to take.
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  9. #139
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    Sonja Djt-bidit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoli View Post
    Actually, that's not really true. Even the "official" (calling urban dictionary official hurts..xD) definition is about buying stuff that gives you a significant edge over other players, but never mentions it has to be completely unobtainable for those who do not pay.

    A very common - and dreaded - version of P2W is fully upgraded/enchanted/melded/etc. endgame gear that can be bought in the CS, because by paying, you instantly have the strongest gear available in the game.
    Said gear is usually not unobtainable ingame - it's just fairly hard to get. It also eliminates any and all motivation to even bother working on getting it ingame when everyone can just whip out their credit card and get it that way.
    THAT's what most people talk about when they are talking about P2W.

    Also, even by your standards, this could qualify - because it is the ONLY non-head exp bonus item in the entire game. You can not obtain that in any other way than by buying it from the Mogstation, so yeah, we have effectively hit "P2W".
    It's not exactly a problematic area yet (because exp is already an overabundance), but it is a dangerous first step to take.
    I'm curious why they didn't roll that type of bonus nonsense into something akin to WoW's old relic armor. If I'm buying this (full disclosure, I'm buying that dress), I don't give any care about the exp boost. It just seems superfluous.
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  10. #140
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    Rune Venil
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    Sargatanas
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Atoli View Post
    ONLY non-head exp bonus item in the entire game. You can not obtain that in any other way than by buying it from the Mogstation, so yeah, we have effectively hit "P2W".
    It's not exactly a problematic area yet (because exp is already an overabundance), but it is a dangerous first step to take.
    The hall of novice would like a word with you. The ring from there does the same thing and isn't tied to a set bonus. ;D
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