Punishment for exploitation of Power Leveling

[Vahzl]

I feel there should be some sort of punishment for those who willing took advantage of power leveling. Either a rollback of the ill gotten experience points, or even a suspension or ban for the really big exploiters. It's unfair to those that leveled legitimately.

GM: Ok player, DID YOU INTENTIONALLY POWER LEVEL OR WAS IT AN ACCIDENT?
Player: Errr.... hang on if I say it was an accident what can you do?
GM: Nothing, but your honesty here is expected
Player: <AFK>

- 15 minutes later -

GM: Are you there player?
Player: Sorry was AFK while my friend accidentally kills all these monsters for me
GM: Then you are free to go, sorry for bothering you

GM: You there, Cake or Death?

[magenta_taco]

Hmm why would they punish people for power leveling when Yoshi himself talked about power leveling and how he's ok with it? How was the player supposed to know what they were doing was wrong regardless of how fast and how quickly you can level up?

[Nabiri]

Yep.

He also said himself that it was intended, they just didn't foresee it being so potent that you could do NOTHING and still EXP. That's the part of it they are going to fix.




The issue here is one of semantics. The original meaning of the word "exploit" was merely to make use of something advantageous, but the domestic implication of the words usage these days has immoral connotations. To exploit is to take advantage of something in a fashion that potential harms or disadvantages another involved party. You can quote the dictionary meaning of a word, but you can't discount the domestic interpretation -- there's a reason why dictionaries are updated on a regular basis.

Neither of those is the case here.

Yoshida himself expressed that the PL system was an intended looseness to allow people to help each other advance through levels. People are using the system as it was intended to be used, the development team merely did not foresee the potency of the function being so strong that people could do nothing and still plow through levels. This is a balancing issue, and people using it is no more of an exploit than using the Experience Chain system.

Yoshida's team made a mistake with regard to their calculations, and they've already expressed that they aren't going to hold their mistake against the players. The system was intended, the numbers are just higher than they wanted/expected and they've decided they will modify them.

Hence, not an exploit. It has nothing to do with whether or not you like or enjoy it -- I haven't even used the system, but its not cheating/exploiting in any way.

It IS exploiting something the way people took advantage of it. Exploiting may be assumed to be a negative word, but it isn't always so. It's not cheating because SE allowed it.

I'm fully aware that Yoshida-san said that PLing is fine. It wouldn't make sense for them to punish players for something they said, "go ahead and take advantage of it if you want," to. That has nothing to do with the word exploit and people's assumptions about it though.

Something being allowed does not mean it can't be exploited, AKA: taken advantage of.

[PrettyPrincess]

Honestly I dont know why you people are arguing people who did this should be punished. They admitted themselves it was their mistake. Patch should have been delayed for more testing. If they had wanted to do anything about it they would have done so. They're even waiting till 1.19a to fix it.

[Anty]

I feel there should be some sort of punishment for those who willing took advantage of power leveling. Either a rollback of the ill gotten experience points, or even a suspension or ban for the really big exploiters. It's unfair to those that leveled legitimately.

the game changed a lot in many ways the last year. Sometimes xp for crafting was amazing (too i didnt play at that time) the 500sp grind pretty much at the start was very fast too.

Then it changed to VERY slow, and ppl lvled still. Then some leves granted a huge amount of xp(sp). The game is being balanced out. Deal with it.
New players start with not dated gear, get materia from day one, can gather catalysts from day one, dont have to deal with less inventory, have much easier recipes... etc. etc... and have high lvl help.

There is no need to punish ppl and SE is aware of that issue anyways. So stop crying about that issue please!

[Colino]

I suggest there be punishment for exploitation of the Create Topic button.

[PrettyPrincess]

I suggest there be punishment for exploitation of the Create Topic button.

I'd much rather have this

[Renshi]

Ah if people power-levels, there's something I am pretty sure about: The risk of not knowing how to play a L50 class.
The day someone tells me how to use skills being a L50 I'll just deny to explain it, since that someone should know that since when he ranked up his class =P

Also I don't like power-leveling, is boring. inb4 "But grinding is boring too", then don't grind and do leves & quests.

[Majidah]

personally I refuse to knowingly join a PLing party. It makes no sense. I'm playing a game, I'm supposed to PLAY it. It makes no sense for someone to skip through it. There isn't even a lot of endgame content. Its about the ride and not your destination.

[Molly_Millions]

How about we punish everyone who beat the the darkhold with archers. This thread is lame....