Rank 14 is the final rank for veteran rewards.

[ADVSS]

Why don't they just replace veteran rewards with daily login rewards. This game is just a few features away in mogstation to qualify as free to play anyways.

like those b2p or f2p games?

[CUTS3R]

Anyone who doesn't plan on sticking around doesn't really have much use for vanity items anyway.

And certainly doesn't deserve any item labelled as veteran reward.

[Sandpark]

This has nothing to do with the game dying. This is about simple logic. Are you seriously telling me if you started playing the game today you wouldn't be discouraged to learn that you have to pay for four years of subscription time to get some vanity items that are all basically worthless? It would be better for the developers to put the items that would have potentially been in the veteran reward program into the cash shop where they could make extra money, promotional events, or even just as in game rewards since people keep screaming for those.

Or they could just give everyone who subscribes three months all the current vet awards and start a fresh veteran reward counter.

Sub 3 months get 1-1440 day rewards, new items start getting added every 90 days like a Veteran reward II. Locking things behind the cash shop makes some players think a sub only mmo is double dipping. Would work like a ilvl sub lol.

[Fynlar]

Technically, that wording is ambiguous. It doesn't necessarily mean that there will never be any future veteran rewards, it just means that 14 is the final rank right now

*is very wary about anything that isn't necessarily set in stone ever since the level 75 cap raise in FFXI*

In fairness though, it is somewhat poetic that FFXIV would only go up to 14 ranks.

[MomomiMomi]

A new player has more incentive from them than a long-term player does, since the early rewards come at a faster rate than the later ones.

You're going to get the early rewards with normal play. The later rewards are the ones you have to stay subbed for and the ones that new players won't be getting.

Sub once in a while and the early rewards will come anyway.

[Kerii]

Technically, that wording is ambiguous. It doesn't necessarily mean that there will never be any future veteran rewards, it just means that 14 is the final rank right now

*is very wary about anything that isn't necessarily set in stone ever since the level 75 cap raise in FFXI*

In fairness though, it is somewhat poetic that FFXIV would only go up to 14 ranks.

From the patch notes: "* Rank 14 is the final rank for veteran rewards." That's pretty specific. However, I think you have a good point. They could literally do anything later on.

[CUTS3R]

Or they could just give everyone who subscribes three months all the current vet awards and start a fresh veteran reward counter.

Sub 3 months get 1-1440 day rewards, new items start getting added like a Veteran reward II

Anything that would be done now and/or in the future that would invalidate all the time/money spent to get the 30-1440 rewards, would be a bucket of spit to everyone who has been subbed since the beginning you know, actual Veterans. Let the current 30-1440 rewards be unreachable for newer players and, as you said, add a new type of veteran rewards working on the side that would just be like the 30-1440 rewards for them, and a continuation for us. They could even be retroactive so everyone start on equal ground.


"Newer" players asking to get the veteran rewards without the same investment is as wrong as if i was asking to get the Legacy rewards. Even though i play since closed betas, i don't deserve them because i wasn't there during 1.0.

They weren't there during the beginning of 2.0 or didn't stay subbed every months since then? its only fair they dont get to earn all the rewards.

[DamianFatale]

Why is that a problem for anyone?

Because if they kept going, some would go without. It's funny how people whine about equal housing, but yet people in this thread whine about not getting glamours that only a small percentage of people will wear. Who honestly programs an outfit into a game, and then tells you that you can't unlock it. It's ignorant logic. All players should get to be veterans.

[Sandpark]

Anything that would be done now and/or in the future that would invalidate all the time/money spent to get the 30-1440, would be a bucket of spit to everyone who has been subbed since the beginning you know.


"Newer" players asking for to get the veteran rewards without the same investment is as wrong as if i was asking to get the Legacy rewards. Even though i play since closed betas, i don't deserve them because i wasn't there during 1.0.

There is a realization in SE that the current reward is not conducive to bringing new players in, hence the stopping. Omitting rewards and older rewards gives no carrot to draw fresh meat in.

Obviously the carrot did work or we wouldn't have a thread on this would we. The average player cares not to chase a carrot on a stick 4 years ahead or be unable to access something because they came to the ball late. See various threads on the dislike of unable to get x item in x seasonal events.

The definition of veteran means something different to me than I was here at x time. To me it is more like there are rookies in baseball, then there are players who keep playing numerous years. Once they leave the game they are no longer veterans but retired.

[Kosmos992k]

Because if they kept going, some would go without. It's funny how people whine about equal housing, but yet people in this thread whine about not getting glamours that only a small percentage of people will wear. Who honestly programs an outfit into a game, and then tells you that you can't unlock it. It's ignorant logic. All players should get to be veterans.

You clearly do not understand the concept of loyalty rewards. Nor aparently the value of virtual goods. Oh well, your loss.