Rank 14 is the final rank for veteran rewards.

[ADVSS]

This has nothing to do with the game dying. This is about simple logic. Are you seriously telling me if you started playing the game today you wouldn't be discouraged to learn that you have to pay for four years of subscription time to get some vanity items that are all basically worthless? It would be better for the developers to put the items that would have potentially been in the veteran reward program into the cash shop where they could make extra money, promotional events, or even just as in game rewards since people keep screaming for those.

Youre absolutely right, I mean who cares that people have been subbing since launch, the new players deserve all those items for a small fee in comparison to the time it took to get it. Seems fair to me, and the message is loud and clear

[CUTS3R]

The entitlement in this post is real.

But justified.

Are you seriously telling me if you started playing the game today you wouldn't be discouraged to learn that you have to pay for four years of subscription time to get some vanity items that are all basically worthless?l

If not being able to get those VANITY items right away, discourage you from playing the game, then good riddance. You were playing the game for the wrong reasons.

[Kerii]

Youre absolutely right, I mean who cares that people have been subbing since launch, the new players deserve all those items for a small fee in comparison to the time it took to get it. Seems fair to me, and the message is loud and clear

If they suddenly add all of the veteran rewards they already gave out to the cash shop, yeah that might be annoying. Why would I care? I've got them all already. lol How petty are you though?

[Genaxx]

This has nothing to do with the game dying. This is about simple logic. Are you seriously telling me if you started playing the game today you wouldn't be discouraged to learn that you have to pay for four years of subscription time to get some vanity items that are all basically worthless? It would be better for the developers to put the items that would have potentially been in the veteran reward program into the cash shop where they could make extra money, promotional events, or even just as in game rewards since people keep screaming for those.

if they are worthless then why having to sub for 4 years to get them discourage you?

I'm still about a year or more away from the 14th reward, doesnt really bother me.

[ADVSS]

If they suddenly add all of the veteran rewards they already gave out to the cash shop, yeah that might be annoying. Why would I care? I've got them all already. lol How petty are you though?

Ill have them all already too, guess equally as petty? Of course my translation of "veteran reward" is probably very different from yours.

[LaylaTsarra]

I don't maintain my sub because of the rewards. I play this game because I love it. The rewards are something that come and personally I think it is/was a nice feature to get some recognition and thank you for my playing the game continually. What they have planned be it a new program or possible continuation of this one in some way remains to be seen.

[Niwashi]

Are you seriously telling me if you started playing the game today you wouldn't be discouraged to learn that you have to pay for four years of subscription time to get some vanity items that are all basically worthless?

Of course not. If I like a game enough to care about such things, then I'll be subscribing a lot longer than that regardless. Anyone who doesn't plan on sticking around doesn't really have much use for vanity items anyway.

A new player doesn't have this incentive to stay subbed.

A new player has more incentive from them than a long-term player does, since the early rewards come at a faster rate than the later ones.

(p.s. It's three posts down. Sorry for replying to a later post in an earlier one, but I hit my forum limit for the day. Same goes for the following ones)

You're going to get the early rewards with normal play. The later rewards are the ones you have to stay subbed for and the ones that new players won't be getting.

I guess that's the point where viewpoints diverge. I see 4-year rewards (or 5 year or 6 year ...) as coming with normal play, since I wouldn't quit a game any earlier than that unless I just didn't like the game in general (which is what would make the rewards pointless).

Who honestly programs an outfit into a game, and then tells you that you can't unlock it. It's ignorant logic. All players should get to be veterans.

And all can. Whether SE adds more vet rewards or not, the ones already here aren't going away. Everyone can get them.

[thunderbreak]

Why don't they just replace veteran rewards with daily login rewards. This game is just a few features away in mogstation to qualify as free to play anyways.

[Gramul]

Bummer. I really liked getting those costumes every half a year. Those Zidane boots really put my ensemble together.

[MomomiMomi]

If not being able to get those VANITY items right away, discourage you from playing the game, then good riddance. You were playing the game for the wrong reasons.

I think you misunderstand being discouraged. A lot of people who love their veteran rewards say that they just stay subbed to stay current with them, and that if they're removed, they're just going to stop doing that.

A new player doesn't have this incentive to stay subbed. It will take me over three years of subscription to get the final reward, and I've already been playing for a while. The final veteran reward may as well not exist to me. In other words, I see the veteran reward and think "oh well, it's nice, but I'll never have it." That's discouragement.


Personally, I think it would be better for them to have something that new players can look forward to, not a pipe dream.