Ok its about time we start figuring some of these things out NOW!

[HaelseMikiro]

I'm just not seeing BSM being the cash cow people want it to be this patch. Yep, they get a lot of 250 weapons. Yep, you're going to need 5 of those Demicrystals to craft each one. Yep, these weapons will sell to glamour hounds if they look good, and people who can't handle a new Ex Trial that's supposed to be easier than Nidhogg Ex. I'd realistically expect the market to bottom out much faster for weapons that any other crafted item this patch because of Sophia. It's possible that the spread of secondaries, and 'some weapons' not receiving a WD increase for that 5 ilvl difference might make a couple crafted weapons more desirable but......it sounds like the effort to profit margin just isn't big enough, unless enough people drop BSM spec to make the rarity drive price up.
And IFF Demicrystals come from desynth, it depends on what ilvl they start at. Most people have ignored desynth completely in 3.0 since we've only been leveling it to get the same exclusive items from i220 gear that we got from desynthing i70 gear. Anyone not already above that level to get Demicrystal will probably not find it worth their interest to level for it now.

[javid]

I'm just not seeing BSM being the cash cow people want it to be this patch. Yep, they get a lot of 250 weapons. Yep, you're going to need 5 of those Demicrystals to craft each one. Yep, these weapons will sell to glamour hounds if they look good, and people who can't handle a new Ex Trial that's supposed to be easier than Nidhogg Ex. I'd realistically expect the market to bottom out much faster for weapons that any other crafted item this patch because of Sophia. It's possible that the spread of secondaries, and 'some weapons' not receiving a WD increase for that 5 ilvl difference might make a couple crafted weapons more desirable but......it sounds like the effort to profit margin just isn't big enough, unless enough people drop BSM spec to make the rarity drive price up.
And IFF Demicrystals come from desynth, it depends on what ilvl they start at. Most people have ignored desynth completely in 3.0 since we've only been leveling it to get the same exclusive items from i220 gear that we got from desynthing i70 gear. Anyone not already above that level to get Demicrystal will probably not find it worth their interest to level for it now.

this bleak outlook you pronounce is EXACTLY WHY THE RICH WILL GIT RICHER!! Those in position to make money from BSM will corner the market while those on the fridges will give up due to competitive advantage in spending time else where. Take for example how ppl make money off of pots b4 x3 per syn??? Those dedicated to that craft had NOO COMPETITION, IT WAS JUST TOO DAMN HARD TO FARM MATS AND ALL THAT WORK FOR 1 SYNTH?? GTFO; but....the dedicated sold it exclusively (on my server for 34k+ per; and its still around there even though syn yields tripled).

Another example; on my server although it wasn't at all popular anymore; ilv220 eikon gear still sold regularly.....220? after 240 was basically free for everyone willing to grind hunts forever.... So the difficulty curve for the causal player defeating the primal; the case where a few 255 weapons will have horrible stats; and that not just ANY BSM will be ready to pump them out on the MB; makes its most ideal for the top tier BSM

[HaelseMikiro]

this bleak outlook you pronounce is EXACTLY WHY THE RICH WILL GIT RICHER!! Those in position to make money from BSM will corner the market while those on the fridges will give up due to competitive advantage in spending time else where...... the case where a few 255 weapons will have horrible stats; and that not just ANY BSM will be ready to pump them out on the MB; makes its most ideal for the top tier BSM

A matter of opinion I guess, to me that bleak outlook is just one logical conclusion. I foresee BSM products being the slowest moving items on the MB this patch. When I saw the specialist recipes for CUL in 3.3, I dropped that spec as fast as I could, happy to leave those profits for others. CRP does look like it will be god tier this time around, and ALC is mandatory for all the other combat gear producers, and although I'm tempted to go back to CUL, it will really depend on the difficulty of Creator Savage. Will the stat caps on the food even be attainable with less than BiS gear? SE has screwed us on that one before, lol. And will the difficulty of the content have the kinds of checks that even require supra-pots and top tier food (doubt it), or will these products primarily be for parse runs.

Not trying to intentionally be a Debbie Downer, just keeping it real and give people some extra things to thing about before changing specs to BSM. 'Course, it's only ever 1 week of red scrips away

[javid]

A matter of opinion I guess, to me that bleak outlook is just one logical conclusion. I foresee BSM products being the slowest moving items on the MB this patch. When I saw the specialist recipes for CUL in 3.3, I dropped that spec as fast as I could, happy to leave those profits for others. CRP does look like it will be god tier this time around, and ALC is mandatory for all the other combat gear producers, and although I'm tempted to go back to CUL, it will really depend on the difficulty of Creator Savage. Will the stat caps on the food even be attainable with less than BiS gear? SE has screwed us on that one before, lol. And will the difficulty of the content have the kinds of checks that even require supra-pots and top tier food (doubt it), or will these products primarily be for parse runs.

Not trying to intentionally be a Debbie Downer, just keeping it real and give people some extra things to thing about before changing specs to BSM. 'Course, it's only ever 1 week of red scrips away

I completely agree with your latter analyze; esp the past CUL patch..... i kep cul HOPING AGAIN HOPE CUL WILL COME THRU.....and it didnt....now those 2 recipes off SPC...rip; the stats on new food will dictate if I swap it out or not myself; I have 2 crafter souls waiting for the switch(s).