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  1. #1921
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    You get a second of "1", then half a second of " " before it comes off. Watch your own video, you were at least halfway through the "1", leaving you less than a second. Like I said, try it out with movement (and moving during swiftcast doesn't count).

    Quote Originally Posted by Aloise View Post
    You should have Piety anyways for guaranteed T1 after B3. The truly hardcore have guaranteed B4 after B3.
    In that scenario you're talking ~70 Piety, which is -70 crit best case. That's more than 1% less damage per cast, way more than your rotation can hope to gain. And that's before factoring in a B1 cast.
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  2. #1922
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    Quote Originally Posted by StouterTaru View Post
    In that scenario you're talking ~70 Piety, which is -70 crit best case. That's more than 1% less damage per cast, way more than your rotation can hope to gain. And that's before factoring in a B1 cast.
    This is simply wrong. If we put 1 crit = 0.2 Int, which seems to be the general consensus, then 70 Piety points is worth 70*0.2 = 14 Int points, which does just barely scrape over 1% of current Int values. However, you simply DON'T need 70 Piety to do any of this. As a mooncat I have 47 on my relic to do guaranteed B4. We'll round up to 50 because of other races, though the discrepancy may be larger for some. 50 * 0.2 = 10 Int, which is NOT 1% of current Int values. Further, that's only for guaranteed B4. For guaranteed T1, you're looking more in the 20-25 Piety range, which 25*0.2 = 50 Int, which is DEFINITELY NOT 1% of current Int values.

    Quote Originally Posted by StouterTaru View Post
    And that's before factoring in a B1 cast.
    It's an approximately 40 pps difference between B1 and T1, before factoring in any of the probabilistic maths surrounding procs. It is mathematically superior to cast T1 instead of B1, especially if the cost is a few piddly points of crit.
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  3. #1923
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aloise View Post
    However, you simply DON'T need 70 Piety to do any of this. As a mooncat I have 47 on my relic to do guaranteed B4.
    That's a guaranteed B4 after your B3 comes late and costs the full 1060 MP on your opener? That's ~363 Piety.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aloise View Post
    1 crit = 0.2 Int, which seems to be the general consensus
    That's not the general consensus, that's the dumbed down number that roughly approximates the value in current gear. Crit is a curve with increasing returns; it takes about 90 from base to get a 1% increase in damage, but less than 60 to get a 1% increase in damage when you're over 1,000 Crit. INT is a straight line through zero; increasing INT by 1% increases damage by 1%.
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  4. #1924
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    Crafted weapon: Det >Crit
    Sophia weapon: Det>Sps
    Alex weapon: Det>Crit

    And summoners alex weapon is sps>det

    WHAT IS WITH ALL THE DOMINANT DET STAT ON ALL THESE WEAPONS????
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  5. #1925
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    Looks like BLMs got a Spell Speed nerf in the form of bad gear.
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    Okay so this isn't funny anymore.

    The only Crit/SPS pieces are the Shire rod, which is Bis. Not Raid weapon is Bis but a scripture weapon. Glorious. And the scripture ring is Crit SS.

    Thats it.

    And to follow this up, 3 out of 4 Alexander accessories are DET CRIT. THREE OUT OF FOUR HAVE THE SAME STATS!?!?!?!?!? So I'd rather kill myself now than get a """"BiS""""" set this patch.
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  7. #1927
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lavitz_ View Post
    Looks like BLMs got a Spell Speed nerf in the form of bad gear.
    Ugh really? I guess i will see tonight but was hoping the scripture gear would be better then lore :/

    Also i agree what is up with all the det weapons??
    Keeping my Relic this patch
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  8. #1928
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    jack of all trades , master of none
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    New crafted gear?
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    WHY FOR THE LOVE OF THE TWELVE DOES NEARLY EVERY SS PIECE HAVE BOATLOADS OF ACC ON IT
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