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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    News flash did you not know that grind is part of games? why the hell to ppl keep thinking that it's not? for that SE should make 2 servers 1 for people who want to level and 1 for people who not and soon they join you have everything 50....
    Grinding boring quests for hours isn't really content but its just that a grind to make up for having so little real content. Go play any NA MMO and you will probably see you can get several levels for each play session. Usually capping isn't that hard because they actually want you to get to the level cap to experience what the game has to offer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    Grinding boring quests for hours isn't really content but its just that a grind to make up for having so little real content. Go play any NA MMO and you will probably see you can get several levels for each play session. Usually capping isn't that hard because they actually want you to get to the level cap to experience what the game has to offer.
    Speak for yourself that i play WoW what is content? doing the same boring dungeon/quest over and over and raids? sorry but level up is the most fun part about a MMO once you reach the end it's all become a job be here at this time and for this long and maybe you get what you want.

    Not everyone think endgame is the fun part of the game i love endgame but level up with friend is also fun but once you reach endgame they have to be some fun part in it or it get boring fast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bearforce View Post
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    I'm not a fanboy i just know what i like and been knowing for many years of playing MMO stop thinking you know a person when you really don't so get over that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    I'm not a fanboy i just know what i like and been knowing for many years of playing MMO stop thinking you know a person when you really don't so get over that.
    then your opinion =/= facts
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    Grinding boring quests for hours isn't really content but its just that a grind to make up for having so little real content. Go play any NA MMO and you will probably see you can get several levels for each play session. Usually capping isn't that hard because they actually want you to get to the level cap to experience what the game has to offer.
    The game has shit to offer even at lower levels. Getting to cap isn't the point of any game. The point of games is to have fun with them, and if getting to endgame = fun then that is your desire, and not everyone elses. Leveling plays a huge factor in any MMORPG as its the ticket to certain events. No matter how long it takes to level, it is going to be there and there will always be an easy way and a hard way to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    Grinding boring quests for hours isn't really content but its just that a grind to make up for having so little real content. Go play any NA MMO and you will probably see you can get several levels for each play session.
    So NA MMO's don't make up with grind for having so little real content, essentially having nothing to hold people over for longer than few weeks at best, while Asian MMO's do make up for it. Who knows which is the healthier approach....

    OP: Guildleves are a decent source of gil, EXPing is faster using other means.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    Grinding boring quests for hours isn't really content but its just that a grind to make up for having so little real content. Go play any NA MMO and you will probably see you can get several levels for each play session. Usually capping isn't that hard because they actually want you to get to the level cap to experience what the game has to offer.
    See... this is a classic example of how people confuse their own subjective opinion with objective fact.

    Quests are content. Leves are content. GC missions are content. Crafting is content. And so on, and so on...

    Every single activity you can partake in, from 1 to 50, in FFXIV is content. Anything the game offers for you to do that entails your character doing something (within the terms of service), such as quests, is content by definition. If you're a role-player, then even role-playing with a group of friends could be considered Content.

    To be clear: Content isn't "only the things Zumi likes" - or anyone else for that matter.

    That you personally do not enjoy any one, or all of those activities and would rather skip past or fly through them does not make them any less so and it is not a case at all, much less a good case, for making leveling faster so, Zumi can get through it all faster.

    Now, clearly you (and others) feel that invoking the presumed agreement of "many others" makes your opinion more "right"... It doesn't. What you're using there is a logical fallacy referred to as argumentum ad populum... an appeal to popularity. Only in this case, you can't even truly claim to speak for many others. You merely presume to, to bolster your own opinions.

    Further, given your statement about "getting multiple levels in any NA MMO for any play session"... very deceptive and disingenuous statement wrapped in far too much generalization.

    The first, and biggest problem: You don't qualify how long a play session is. Is it an hour? Two hours? Three hours? Ten hours? Your entire assertion is based on an undefined parameter, which happens to be the basis for the assertion itself. It's really poorly thought out argumentation at best. It's deliberately deceptive at worst.

    If you're level 1, you can certainly get several levels inside your first couple hours (including cut-scenes, etc).
    If you're level 30 and are playing for 10 hours, you can certainly get a few levels...
    If you're level 50 and only playing for 1 hour, no... you're not going to get "a few levels per play session".
    And on and on and on...

    If all you prefer is the end game, then do what your type always does and plan out "the most efficient path to level cap" so you can bask in the glory that is currently a few dungeons and a Primal battle. I won't be at all surprised if you're back on these forums before long complaining of being bored 'cause there's "not enough to do at end game".
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