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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    You keep saying glamour affects battle content, but what you mean to say is "appearance of gear is being affected because of the bunny suit development". You could have said that and avoided a lot of confusion.
    Apologies, but yes that is a better way to word it.
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  2. #32
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    Why does it matter WHERE we get the new gear option from? You keep saying they should develop unique gear for Alexander savage, but fail to see how that doesnt really compare since this is ONE outfit (that you, as a female character, already got btw...) and raid-gear would be 5 or 6 different sets.

    So, yes, we can talk about the bunny outfits for males: we can celebrate that they're finally getting one! And that SE listend to the complains about how its unfair that female characters get a lot more options than males.
    Please, dont use "they could have used this time to develop something else" excuse - its pretty lame, seeing how we are actually getting a lot of new content and considering that developing one gearset isnt really preventing them from doing something thats essintial to the game. I assure you: This bunny suit isnt the reason you dont get unique gear from your raids... so stop pretending thats the case...
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by DakenBrunel View Post
    I would prefer that the dev team make lasting sustainable content first, then worry about making nice looking optional gear.
    Yeah the problem with this kind of logic is two-fold.

    1. MMOs by their nature of incoming and outgoing content routed to hurndreds/thousands/millions of players can never be perfect. The sheer amounts of code as well as physical machinery involved, not to mention human error means these things can never be perfect and always has problems. Balancing one thing tips the scale on another. If we had to wait for a stable game and "sustainable content" (whatever that means) before the DEVs were allowed to do flavor fluff, we would never get the fluff. And since dirty casuals out number content juckies by a large margin, the population would be all but nonexistent and an unsupported game makes no money and folds. You would never get to the fabled perfect game. Subs keep the lights on pay for simple content and raids, glamours pay for pretty raids and trials.

    2. Its self centered to make a sweeping statement that the game "doesn't need XYZ" just because you don't use the feature as much as others. I work a full time job and have a full time life. TBH I don't raid at all but I like to collect minions, but I would never assume to be more important then another player and say things like "I would prefer that the devs filled the various glam and minion/mount requests that have been up for years.... and THEN make the new raid." That would be stupid and selfish of me. Its an MMO, you're not the only one here. We all share the space, that means we have to consider what others want too.
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  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    This bunny suit isnt the reason you dont get unique gear from your raids... so stop pretending thats the case...
    it contributes to the problem.
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  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by DakenBrunel View Post
    Appearance of gear is being affected because of the bunny suit development.
    If I had to guess, SE has it in their right mind to know who to assign to make which piece of glamour/outfits.

    They're obviously not going to have their entire clothing team work on one set of gear, and then release 10 sets of gear in the next patch...

    If there is demand - which there is - there will be a supply, it's just that simple.

    Quote Originally Posted by DakenBrunel View Post
    it contributes to the problem.
    You seem to believe that there is an issue where if the dev team decides to work on something other than what you want, it contributes to the issue of not getting what you want. This is not the case, it's never the case. This is a lack of creativity from the clothing dev team, not because a few people from the clothing dev team are working on a bunny suit for males...
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    Last edited by ErryK; 09-25-2016 at 10:10 AM.



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  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by DakenBrunel View Post
    it contributes to the problem.
    I actually dont believe it does - you see, the art-team tries to capture a certain style that fits the dungeon/raid each time or at least follows a specific concept for the dungeon/raid. Seeing how a lot of gear in this game looks alike already because we've got the same people with the same artstyles working on it, I suppose it would be rather difficult for them to come up with double the amount of gear that looks like it belongs to Alexander.
    They also seem to have made the CHOICE to handle gear from raids this way - the bunny suit has nothing to do with this...

    (Question btw: Would you be happy with the bunny suits dropping as gear from the new Alexander-raid? I actually dont understand why you're upset about this - because you dont get some super-duper-special gear from your raids to wear and show off when males are finally getting their share of the sexy bunny-life? Are you also mad about the new hairstyles they're adding? Wanna talk about them?)
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    Last edited by Vidu; 09-25-2016 at 10:18 AM.

  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by DakenBrunel View Post
    I'd also like to point out that I am in no way asking for more raid content or anything of the sort. I'm asking SE to consider how they are dispersing their development team. The amount of time poured into the infamous bunny suit for males could have been used to develop a unique set for alexander normal. The unique opinion of a small portion of people on the forums do not reflect the entirety of the game's population, just like my opinion doesn't either.
    Dear lord, by 6 months of work, you don't honestly believe that they have a dedicated team who spend their entire six months on an outfit, do you? From concept art, to modeling, to texturing, to QA, there's a lot of different departments it has to go through. I'm also willing to bet they're done in batches so a whole bunch of stuff is drawn up at once, so even though the work takes over six months to form a complete product, it also comes with a dozen other 6 month projects.
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  8. #38
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    Khuja'to Binbotaj
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    Quote Originally Posted by basketofseals View Post
    Dear lord, by 6 months of work, you don't honestly believe that they have a dedicated team who spend their entire six months on an outfit, do you? From concept art, to modeling, to texturing, to QA, there's a lot of different departments it has to go through. I'm also willing to bet they're done in batches so a whole bunch of stuff is drawn up at once, so even though the work takes over six months to form a complete product, it also comes with a dozen other 6 month projects.
    This. Also, the fact that this takes time is why Yoshi P asked us which specific outfits we wanted, and this outfit was heavily requested. I want unique savage gear too, but this outfit was requested far more than savage gear, so this takes priority (Eddas gear was also heavily requested much to my displeasure).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    This. Also, the fact that this takes time is why Yoshi P asked us which specific outfits we wanted, and this outfit was heavily requested. I want unique savage gear too, but this outfit was requested far more than savage gear, so this takes priority (Eddas gear was also heavily requested much to my displeasure).
    He mentioned savage gear looking slightly different or something so thats pretty cool, can't wait to see what it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    For the same reason that they "wasted" 6 months to design and implement the female version

    For the same reason that they are "wasting" 6 months to implement the Edda outfits for females

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    Didn't they also make two versions of the 'Playboy suit' for females? Where was OP when they made the first two (I'd mention the other Gold Saucer gear, but NPCs had been wearing them for months before then)?

    Quote Originally Posted by DakenBrunel View Post
    We also get the same amount of content each patch with one less dungeon... weird huh.
    One less dungeon for Diadem and Palace of the Dead. While 3.2 did lack a new 'end game' thing, there was still Midas Savage. 3.4 on the other hand, that has Savage and eventually 150 floors added to the Palace of the Dead (so that's what... at least three dungeons within a dungeon?). The gear design team is also bigger than the battle design team, which consists of... I think 5 groups? someone posted a picture of the groups on Reddit, but I can't find it. I just recall that Team A made Leviathan and Sophia, Team B made Titan and Sephirot (and Second-Final Coil?) and C, D and Alpha I don't recall
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    Last edited by Nestama; 09-25-2016 at 11:19 AM.

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