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  1. #71
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    Tint's Avatar
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    Karuru Karu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frederick22 View Post
    Another complaining thread about content that hasnt even up yet.

    Do you guys dont understand that this reward is a HQ DoL/H with 5 100% slots? You dont see that, do you?
    Of course is gonna be something rare, beacuse of not it would destroy the markets.

    And we still havent touched the second chnage points...

    ohh my god what is wrong with the people, seriosuly the first comments are always people just tring to chill out to maker themselfs being hear and saing total nonscences with no proof whatsoever that this content will be bad.
    i understand it. and i also understand that it is completely useless.

    the chance to get it only depends on RNG. so if you are a crafter - you can't rely on that RNG. you have to get the craftet version of the gear and you have to overmeld it for millions. of course you can play the waiting game and hope to win the gear with 5 slots, but that will probably never happen.

    so... are you playing the lottery then? or are you buying the craftet version? and if you already have the crafted version and overmelded it for millions - are you playing the lottery then? to probably win the lottery and replace your expensive invest? do you even want that for a small stat increase?

    same can be said abaout the battle gear. either you buy the crafted 250 gear and overmeld it with grade 4 materia (or 5 if you are rich) in the first weeks of the patch or it will be useless because you already have ilvl 260 / 270 gear later in the patch cycle wich is (in almost all cases) better than overmeldet i250.

    the reward is not only really good - it is also useless. the design is fail. the gear is too good, so they have to lock it behind ridiculous RNG, wich makes the whole thing obsolete.
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    Last edited by Tint; 09-25-2016 at 09:39 AM.

  2. #72
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    Frederick22's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    i understand it. and i also understand that it is completely useless.

    the chance to get it only depends on RNG. so if you are a crafter - you can't rely on that RNG. you have to get the craftet version of the gear and you have to overmeld it for millions. of course you can play the waiting game and hope to win the gear with 5 slots, but that will probably never happen.

    so... are you playing the lottery then? or are you buying the craftet version? and if you already have the crafted version and overmelded it for millions - are you playing the lottery then? to probably win the lottery and replace your expensive invest? do you even want that for a small stat increase?

    same can be said abaout the battle gear. either you buy the crafted 250 gear and overmeld it with grade 4 materia (or 5 if you are rich) in the first weeks of the patch or it will be useless because you already have ilvl 260 / 270 gear later in the patch cycle wich is (in almost all cases) better than overmeldet i250.

    the reward is not only really good - it is also useless. the design is fail. the gear is too good, so they have to lock it behind ridiculous RNG, wich makes the whole thing obsolete.
    Thats your opinion, it doesnt make it useless.

    It has to be something like a loterry, the reward is something unique that you wont get elsewere...

    People may want to spend gil and materia and going to the secure way, or waiting to see if they have the luck of getting something even better but rare.
    What will they choice? we dont know, is theirs desicions.

    Just think on it, not so many people would risk a materia V on a the last rng slot, right?
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    Last edited by Frederick22; 09-25-2016 at 09:44 AM.

  3. #73
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    Neophyte's Avatar
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    Mim Silmaril
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    Not all of us have nothing else going on in their lives to dedicate a bunch of time to complete wastes of time like this. I'm sure seeing that miqote girl will definitely remain a really good motivation after the first time - because man those polygons really get me going!
    You're speaking of only this game or video games in general?
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  4. #74
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    Duuude007's Avatar
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    Duuude Bismarck
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    where does it say you can only do 9? one of the challenges is to accrue 9 regardless of the position they are in... but I don't see anything that says you can't keep going after 9, merely that 9 is one of the four goals...
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  5. #75
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    Ruin Darkstride
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    where does it say you can only do 9? one of the challenges is to accrue 9 regardless of the position they are in... but I don't see anything that says you can't keep going after 9, merely that 9 is one of the four goals...
    It says you can receive "up to 9 seals", implying that 9 is the maximum. There is also an image presented in the notes that shows 5/9 seals acquired, again showing that 9 is the maximum.
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  6. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frederick22 View Post
    Thats your opinion, it doesnt make it useless.
    A friend of mine could have sat around forever hoping to win the cactpot to earn the Fenrir mount, but he didn't, he chose to work his ass off for the MGP to purchase it from that effort cause he really wanted it. A raider certainly isn't going to prolong his raid's static so he can have this uber cool penta meld gear he'll replace in a couple weeks of effort. Just as likely, a crafter isn't going to just sit there and not build up their craft and make this gear themselves in hopes that Santa comes early.

    Minions, mounts, furniture or glamour are one thing. Having some uber gear as a chance reward sounds nice, but gear has a shelf-life, especially combat gear. Either you get lucky and get a lead early on or it'll be something that you chance upon at some point later down the road. The ultimate difference being it probably only of actual use if it's early on, otherwise it's just gil in the bank. Could have just given that as a reward, gil will always be useful no matter the situation.
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    Last edited by Lewtskie; 09-25-2016 at 01:05 PM.

  7. #77
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    ColorOfSakura's Avatar
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    Aerik Tirel
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Launched View Post
    Exactly, it's a great piece of gear so it shouldn't be locked behind RNG. It should be guaranteed from completing difficult content.
    No? Not every good piece of gear has to come from difficult content and I literally do not understand why you people have this mindset. There should always ALWAYS be alternative ways to gear your character, especially if you're eventually planning to tackle hardcore content. Wonderous Tails is a way to keep old content relevant and help players with clears - giving it good rewards is a way to ensure players use it. People aren't going to be getting full sets of this gear from Wonderous Tails - it's meant to be supplementary, not for people who want to World First stuff. Especially since Creator (Savage) is going to drop higher than i250 gear /anyways/.
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  8. #78
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    Kakita Ucalibur
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    There is a lot of speculation going on here and not all of it is guaranteed to be correct.

    We do not fully know how the Second chance system is going to work.

    While the chance of getting a 3 Line is 1 in 476 base. Depending on how the Second Chance system works it might be possible to force a 3 line.

    There is not much to be done if each sticker is randomly chosen when the duty is complete, but if every sticker is assigned to a random task slot when the book is generated and then using the 1 point Second Chance may allow you to figure out which sticker is where and the 2 point shuffle option might allow you to set up a viable pattern when you have completed 2 to 7 tasks.
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    Last edited by Ultimatecalibur; 09-25-2016 at 04:16 PM.

  9. #79
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    Skadi Felis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox View Post
    For a game that renders each patch gear obsolete every 3 months, having a low probability of getting the gear will likely make this content dead on arrival, maybe I'm wrong, but I it just seems like a really bad way to get players craving that gear, especially if it's targeting old content that SE is still trying to make relevant.
    6 months
    dungeon gears don't count

    Quote Originally Posted by RyuSaarva View Post
    okay sure, lets make it drop once a week from the last alexander savage but only the combat piece.
    Not the gear, but mats to craft the gear. And other mats from other contents.
    And mats that you get for 1000 Scripture tomes each (yes, the weekly cap tome).
    And then craft all together with a 3 star recipe.

    That should keep it rare, too (and very expensive in the MB)
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    Last edited by Felis; 09-25-2016 at 10:16 PM.

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  11. #80
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    Yukihko Kuroshima
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    That should keep it rare, too (and very expensive in the MB)
    Up to the point no one is ever crafting it...
    We already see some things not in MB because NO one is doing them!
    Same as some things were once in MB and now you hopelessly search for them!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackoutz View Post
    Naja ich hab einfach gemerkt, dass man mit Mut und Freundlichkeit viel weiter kommt und den Menschen eine Freude macht :3
    Weißt du, wenn wir alle an einem Strang hier im Forum ziehen, dann kommen wir einfach so viel weiter und stärken die gesammte Community <3

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