Opinions on lying about who has/hasn't cleared a fight?

[Rennies]

That's not an excuse to keep doing it.

I haven't done it before and I won't be doing it again. ;P

You live and you learn.

[Lokier]

I went into Ravana EXT with a P/F group, they omg'd to begin with, but at least I only died when it was a wipe. Poor non-noob however kept wiping, which at least made me look good, lmao.
Of course, they didn't out 'no noobs', so it's their fault I even joined....

[ZhaneX]

I don't see anything wrong with it per-se.
Granted I've never out-right lied about it. I've started up SephEX Farm parties a couple times recently, and a couple times have had someone whisper me that they need a clear, and both times I just shrugged and said "Sure".

First time did not go well. Honestly didn't really pay attention to the guy who needed a clear, so I can't be sure how much of it was their fault, but regardless, no clear that day.

Next time it happened was just last night. It was a complete mess. It was like, 4am in the morning, took forever to get a full party together, had to reset the PF once, and since many of us were off doing other things at the time, when we did get a Full Party, we were down a tank and had an extra DPS. So I asked one of the DPS if they could tank, someone spoke up, and we proceeded. At first, I tried MT, but I'm horrid at it, since I'd only ever been OT before. Two wipes in I suggested that we switch, since the other tank seemed to be doing a great job of getting and keeping aggro when I kept dying. Then we had two more wipes because the DPS kept falling short on the Wind. Then, try #5, and we did it! Only issue to come up at all was that a Healer fell off during the second Pillars of Mercy. But he only had 2% Health then, so...

Basically, all's well that ends well? Guy got a clear, rest of us got a token.

[CUTS3R]

Of course, they didn't out 'no noobs', so it's their fault I even joined....

That is one thing i noticed recently that pisses me the F out.

Apparently nowadays if you don't specifically mention "no bonus" in your PF comment, people with bonus will join.
I don't know when that changed but apparently typing "farm" alone in your comment doesn't imply to have downed it anymore... SMH

[Lokier]

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If you don't SAY I can't join... I'm going to join. I anticipate you don't really mind who joins if you don't say anything. >_>

[CUTS3R]

If you don't SAY I can't join... I'm going to join. I anticipate you don't really mind who joins if you don't say anything. >_>

But that's the thing, if i say "farm" in my PF comment, this alone is saying that everyone needing a clear is not welcome.

[Lokier]

But that's the thing, if i say "farm" in my PF comment, this alone is saying that everyone needing a clear is not welcome.

They never put farm in their title, just "Ravana EXT group" Along with an ilvl requirement. :P They all left after as well, so god knows what they were doing, lol.

[CUTS3R]

They never put farm in their title, just "Ravana EXT group" Along with an ilvl requirement. :P They all left after as well, so god knows what they were doing, lol.

In the case of your example, it's totally their fault.

[Lokier]

In the case of your example, it's totally their fault.

Don't get me wrong, if "farm" had been in the title I'd have made it known I was new, but I thought it was just like a practice run for an FC with a few members short, but I'm not sure. :S

[Lambdafish]

Without any context and as a blanket statement, I will say: Lying is always bad if you are wanting people to trust you.

If you don't SAY I can't join... I'm going to join. I anticipate you don't really mind who joins if you don't say anything. >_>

I'm not sure you understand what farm is, it is the expectation that everyone has beaten the fight and is comfortable quickly clearing multiple times (sometimes even having cleared is not enough to be at farm status). So yes, farm parties do say that you can't join if you haven't cleared.