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  1. #81
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    Nuru's Avatar
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    Atehki Mejastra
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    Quote Originally Posted by KenJammin View Post
    They're are a lot of power leveling complaint threads, and i could post in there but personally i feel as though its such a major issue that they're can not be enough threads regarding the issue.

    The worth of a max level character is a prime motivator for the experience grind, without an experience grind MMO's have little in the way of long term gaming. The easier it is for other people to gain access to a max level character diminishes the value of achieving a max level character. MMO's meet with little success if they're are no long term goals to be met and rewards that are disproportionate to the amount of time that needs to be investment.

    The concept of power-leveling has been addressed as old as games such as Ultima Online, Ragnarok Online, and Everquest to name a few. The delusion that how other players choose to play the game has no bearing on me is a fallacious idea. The same way as letting other players bot and manipulate the economy (I cannot compete against a 24 hour gaming machine in an online game economy) is a flaw. Letting other players gain max level with 0 effort diminishes my characters worth.

    I don't want to gain max level without effort but if i want to engage in endgame content I will not be able to compete with players who have access to all jobs at max level.

    A large influx of max level characters makes it difficult for my traditional leveled characters to compete economically, access to higher level abilities, and equipment options. Other problems include, selling of high level characters for ingame and out of game money, poorly skilled end game players, limited number of people i can form groups with and meaningful connections with other players in a casual leveling scenario. And from a business standpoint short term monthly subscriptions.

    I understand the concept of letting higher leveled players play with lower leveled players however they're are many solutions to this that have been used in other MMO's. A good idea would be to let max level players level synch with lower level players at the benefit of increased soul level experience.

    I hope i succeeded in making my point clear, and that i've contributed to invalidating the argument that power leveled characters do not affect my online experience.

    I trust that the development team will stand to reason on this issue, I hope they address it swiftly and quickly, however I am severely disappointed by the level of oversight this patch has demonstrated and on a personal note i urge Yoshi-P to continue to listen to the community and to be more critical of his personal ideologies.
    WHY U KEEP POSTNIG THESE THREADS?
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  2. #82
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    Aion Zwei
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    Quote Originally Posted by KenJammin View Post
    The main reason i made my post is to refute this faulty logic.

    Your actions have an impact of those around you whether you intended them to or not.

    I'll bet my money on most of the people who are power levelers are teenagers, who are playing the game because they're bored and its free, not cause they're actually interested in it as a long term MMO.

    what a stupid accusation....
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  3. #83
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    Quote Originally Posted by KenJammin View Post

    I'll bet my money on most of the people who are power levelers are teenagers, who are playing the game because they're bored and its free, not cause they're actually interested in it as a long term MMO.
    yeah, the nerve of those assholes.
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  4. #84
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    Maetilorh Rhotwilfsyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Triplicus View Post
    yeah, the nerve of those assholes.
    Lmao

    ....

    on a side note.... Why isn't anyone complaining about AH's anymore? Is PL the new fad?
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  5. #85
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvari View Post
    Lmao

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    on a side note.... Why isn't anyone complaining about AH's anymore? Is PL the new fad?
    People who whine aimlessly tend to do it in predictable hordes. The AH issue has its merits, but this one's so silly the flock had to graze on its lush green grasses for a while.
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  6. #86
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bearforce View Post
    no one cares
    Apparently some people do because the problem is being fixed.
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  7. #87
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zezlar View Post
    Apparently some people do because the problem is being fixed.
    No its not. The Devs are fixing the real problem, not this nonsense people are complaining about...

    The real issue has been so deeply buried by ridiculous nonsense that half of these people don't even know what they are complaining about anymore.

    The funniest part is that it was going to get fixed regardless -- it was an equation miscalculation, not a game breaking mechanic they purposefully implemented.

    PL'ing isn't going to stop, its just going to be a bit less extreme because they want lower level people to still contribute -- but watch, I'll bet you my bottom dollar even after the changes have been made and the exp has been lowered, the fact that people will still be able to PL is going to keep these folks crying for a long, long time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ViolentDjango View Post
    No its not. The Devs are fixing the real problem, not this nonsense people are complaining about...

    The real issue has been so deeply buried by ridiculous nonsense that half of these people don't even know what they are complaining about anymore.

    The funniest part is that it was going to get fixed regardless -- it was an equation miscalculation, not a game breaking mechanic they purposefully implemented.

    PL'ing isn't going to stop, its just going to be a bit less extreme because they want lower level people to still contribute -- but watch, I'll bet you my bottom dollar even after the changes have been made and the exp has been lowered, the fact that people will still be able to PL is going to keep these folks crying for a long, long time.
    True that and the funny thing is that once they adjust the exp gain, there will be a flood of topics about how PL was awesome and how SE is the devil for fixing this issue.

    It's kinda what happened when people where complaining about how the game was so easy and they didn't had any challenge, patch 1.19 came, the game presents more challenge now... everyone complains that they can't kill monsters and the game being to hard now...really?

    I get the feeling that most of the people that complain in the forums are just bored people that have nothing to do than to play a game 24/7.

    If they want to PL, who cares? Let them play the game the way the want to, if you want to spend one year leveling one job to 50, it's your choice and no one should be able to tell you otherwise, try to enjoy the game and stop trying to make people play the game the way you want them to play.

    Seriously... most of the complains in this forums are ridiculous.
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    Last edited by Rorix; 10-13-2011 at 12:59 AM.
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  9. #89
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    Aistaraina Lanae
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    I'll level however the fuck I want. You, nor anyone else creating these stupid, pointless threads, can dictate what I decide to do in game. If I want to solo, I'll solo. If I want to party regularly, I'll party regularly. If I want to get PL'd, I'll ask my LS. If I want to run around naked, and /emote everyone until I get banned, I'll do that to. PL is, and always has been a part of MMOs. And frankly, you need some good friends if you expect to be PL'd all the way through 50. Enough. With. The. Threads.
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  10. #90
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    Meneyota Kunyaa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luluna View Post
    Have to agree...what i get is how the hell are you supposed to learn a class when you are stood in a corner hiding like a big tart and a level 50 kills for you? I feel sad this has come to this. I know people on my server who have been there since the beginning and worked hard...and it means nothing now. I am all for people getting XP and having fun but in a balanced way that' isn't stupidly hard and not easy mode.

    I have to disagree, I am neither "okay with" or "not okay with" Powerleveling...

    I honestly DON'T CARE!

    I have never learned how to play my class while leveling up, every time I've "learned a strategy" with any class in any mmo it has always been context sensitive, Killing mindless mobs out in the field? Beat on it till it stops! Killing a bigbad in a dungeon, okay that needs some work.

    Second, your lvl 50 now is worthless?...fun fact! it was worthless before too. your max lvl character has NO REAL WORLD VALUE. It has only the "value" you yourself put into it. If the fact that some one else got to lvl50 without doing the same steps you did somehow cheapen your own self worth...then you have much bigger problems than power leveling...

    In conclusion...I do not care about power leveling, I have absolutely no interest in what "other people" are doing as it has no bearing on what I am doing
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