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  1. #71
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    Quote Originally Posted by ToniRomo View Post
    The follower system is one of my least favorite thing in WoW. Squadrons sound pretty boring now. If we can take them to dungeons one day and do more with them that may be neat. Looking forward to what we can do with them in 3.5.
    There is no if we can.. We will..they alrdy said so
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  2. #72
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    This is looking like a day late and a dollar short. for something that was pushed back to 3.4...I was hoping to interact with the squadron, take them places, perhaps a bit of customization or personality like the path companions. This is none of these things.
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    Last edited by Kallera; 09-19-2016 at 01:21 AM.

  3. #73
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    It is disappointing that they're basically just ventures. Retainers, airships, now platoons. Not a huge difference for now. We'll see in the future.
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  4. #74
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    Quote Originally Posted by Parodine View Post
    It is disappointing that they're basically just ventures. Retainers, airships, now platoons. Not a huge difference for now. We'll see in the future.
    They are chocobos without the chocobo.
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  5. #75
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lulu89 View Post
    No it not the same ppl form wow are just over reacting again. WoWs Garrison crap was just NPCs doing shit for you.. The Squadrons system is not like that you can LV them fight with them train them and gear them all over time.. Use them in Dungens and more(Not right away but soon) So no it not like the WoW crap. Not by a long shot.
    Soooo it is exactly like garrisons?

    Recruit followers



    You level them up with missions



    You gear them up




    Oh and you could actually use your followers as adventuring partners on launch

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  6. #76
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    Fyce Alvey
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    Please spare me.
    No.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    People wouldn't be upset if this was the first time they half arsed content releases only to ditch them to the wayside for several patch cycles. So many systems in the game sit around half done moldering awaiting the update that makes them what they should have been at initial release.
    So, what do you want? You want SE not to release anything for a year until they "finish" everything? That's not why I subscribed for. FFXIV is a theme park MMO with a lot of different things to do. This is what FFXIV is. If you want something else than that, something with very deep features released only every bisextile year, this isn't the game you're looking for.
    And no, I'm not using that "if you don't like it, leave" lame excuse lightly here, I'm deadly serious. This game has been like this since the 2.0 release, and you expect something else entirely? You, please spare me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    Don't get all high and mighty on people who expect a competent product to be launched with major patch cycles. So far the Dev team has made a pretty bad habit of over promising and under-delivering and then just ditching the product to move on to something else they will half-finish before handing to players.
    "Over promising and under-delivering", as I said, it's not their fault if people like you take thrown ideas as promises. You are the only one to blame for making your own false expectations.
    Besides, platoon management isn't "half-finished". It is complete and ready to be released. If you wanted the "complete set of features regarding platoons that there will ever be in this game", then you'd have to wait for another year.. and who guess we'd see complaining on the forum that there's "no new things"? People like you.

    So, yeah. Platoon management is done and will be released. Deat with it, dear entitled always angry customer.
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    Last edited by Fyce; 09-19-2016 at 02:27 AM.

  7. #77
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    "Done and will be released" yet it is not done, nor releasing with the features hoped for. people voices what they wanted or desired with squardrons, and the foundation of this is not promising. This is important because that foundation is what is going to be built on, so if that is poor, that is not only not going away, but will only built around instead of revised.
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    Last edited by Kallera; 09-19-2016 at 02:51 AM.

  8. #78
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyce View Post
    So, what do you want? You want SE not to release anything for a year until they "finish" everything? That's not why I subscribed for. FFXIV is a theme park MMO with a lot of different things to do.
    Please don't start with me on something you obviously are oblivious too.

    Would I prefer SE release systems that a fully fleshed out and offer more than 20 minutes to content at release? Hell yeah I do.

    FFXIV can have hundreds of theme park attractions and if 0 of them offer anything of value or continue to linger in maluse due to half finished mechanics and potential. What is the appeal in that I ask?

    Riddle me this.

    What use are Grand Companies right now?
    What use are the old PVP arenas?
    What use is Diadem right now and even in the 4.0 patch with the gear it supplies being allready useless and no real changes to the system to make it more appealing even in sight?
    Will company crafting ever expand to be something more usefull than to advance your glorified airship retainer ventures?

    I could go on about the games systems that get released and then left to rot. If they had a habbit of actually coming back to these in a good way I wouldn't complain but their track record is shoddy at best.

    Just because you seem to enjoy proding concepts for a few weeks and are content with that doesn't mean I am. I'll continue to be a "Dear Entitled always angry customer" until they release the systems in a satisfactory way.

    So you keep being you. Dear always accepting white knight.
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  9. #79
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    Eva Gamirdren
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    I have to say I would rather have this particular feature delayed until it had more meat. XIV really didn't need a 3rd Venture system in my opinion.

    I would have settled for being able to use them as AI companions in the field and some Grand Company related story missions to accompany rank ups (similar to the story instances where you're accompanied by npcs in game already) even if SE couldn't get them ready for full dungeon mechanics at launch.
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  10. #80
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    Just because you seem to enjoy proding concepts for a few weeks and are content with that doesn't mean I am. I'll continue to be a "Dear Entitled always angry customer" until they release the systems in a satisfactory way.

    So you keep being you. Dear always accepting white knight.
    White knight? I'm just the one who has already figured out that this is their way of doing things for more than 3 years now. How long will it takes you to see that? You are literally asking for them to completly change the way this game is being developed.
    Besides, what I like or dislike has absolutly nothing to do with white knighting. If their way of releasing content suits my needs and expectations, but not yours, it's only down to subjectivity and differences in standards... which is also subjective.

    And yes, I'll keep being me, as it makes me able to enjoy that game way more than you do apparently, so no reason why I would want to change.

    P.S. Riddles don't work if you ask rhetorical questions.
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