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  1. #11
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    DynamoAce's Avatar
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    Ace Ark
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    Malboro
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    There was one instance where I ran a dungeon for the first time as a healer, and went into a cutscene before the boss. Even by the time I decided to cut it early for whatever reason the tank decided to jump in early and they were stuck without a healer and died horribly. Despite me skipping the cutscene 10 seconds after when I felt it'd be long and sprinted towards the boss arena, it got closed off before I could make it.

    Needless to say, they were embarrassed.
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  2. #12
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    Kvietok Cholla
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    Phoenix
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by DynamoAce View Post
    for whatever reason the tank decided to jump in early and they were stuck without a healer and died horribly
    Tank that does not check if his group (and specially healer) is inside deserves to die horribly.
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  3. #13
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    DynamoAce's Avatar
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    Ace Ark
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    Malboro
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Galborion View Post
    Tank that does not check if his group (and specially healer) is inside deserves to die horribly.
    And he did.
    Now don't get me wrong, sometimes I can understand if a player is in a hurry and really just wants to get things over with, etc or make a run go as fast as possible.

    But doesn't it make more sense to make sure everyone is ready before they run in? Yknow, before deaths can happen which will only prolong the duty even longer if a wipe happens. Just seems redundant to me.
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  4. 09-16-2016 08:16 PM
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  5. #14
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    PrincessNuri's Avatar
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    Miss Romania
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    Zalera
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    Warrior Lv 60
    They should remove the main story daily altogether, remove all cut scenes, or rework it to show a different recap version at the end. As tank I also hate waiting and when I see a bonus, I ask if they care for the cutscenes or not. If they do, I just leave and make gil crafting or decorate my house for 30m and get a instapop and repeat. Usually by the 2nd queue I get the rush hour anyway.

    Hopefully, my exit didn't take others with me since the penalty for them is completely removed at this point and they stayed to help. If not, then just like most dungeons nor trials, they need to form a party and queue up their own version.
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  6. #15
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    ChameleonMS's Avatar
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    Jordan O'niell
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    Gilgamesh
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by PrincessNuri View Post
    Hopefully, my exit didn't take others with me since the penalty for them is completely removed at this point and they stayed to help. If not, then just like most dungeons nor trials, they need to form a party and queue up their own version.
    I queue in progress as a Tank for the dailies. I say thank you to tanks like you. I get to run shortened instances and my arrival is always praised. So, to you, and all the other rage quit impatient tanks out there. Thank you for making life easier for me.
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  7. #16
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    Knahli's Avatar
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    K'nahli Yohko
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    Balmung
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    Bard Lv 89
    I always suggested that a checkbox - akin to 'Join in progress' - should be added for those two dungeons/roulette which place you in parties with at least one first-time player and engage a particular variant of those runs where engaging bosses before everyone finishes the cutscenes is simply not possible; albeit, subjecting yourself to those longer runs will yield high tome rewards considering you are allowing first time players to view their cutscenes at the expense of your time. That way, first timers will always get to see the run properly the first time around and high-level players that are willing to put in the time will still be rewarded and given incentive to queue for such modes.

    Albeit last time I debated that someone had an extremely hard time understanding my concept and acted like I was forcing something on the higher level players somehow so I got really frustrated and stopped checking that topic after a while.
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  8. #17
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    SessionZero's Avatar
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    Ragna Blackmane
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    Mateus
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    Warrior Lv 60
    Adding such lengthy cutscenes to a mandatory dungeon in an MMO is just bad design. It's all well and good to have story in your MMO, but make the intro cutscene happen before queue, add no cutscenes during the instance (unless they're ~a minute, maybe) and have the ending cutscene happen upon exit. SE has gotten much better about this in more recent content but in the case of Castrum Meridianum or Praetorium I'm afraid I have to side with people who say, "Just watch them later."
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  9. #18
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    The_Last_Dragoon's Avatar
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    Renabi Rena
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    Gilgamesh
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    Bard Lv 90
    Yeah, the two main scenario ARR dungeons are the worst offenders because they can essentially be done by a party of four. Keep in mind that while you may want to enjoy your story the first time, these players are probably playing that content hundreds of times because SE commonly has the Main Scenario end dungeons give the most tomes. If you want to enjoy the story of the content as you are playing it, you should form a party of either FC members who are willing to wait, or make a PF group. If you can't, then that should shed some light as to how much of a minority in this situation you really are.

    The good news is that Heavensward's Main Scenario dungeon has less cutscenes and doesn't have them placed randomly in the middle of a battle. They also purposely limited the item level to the point where heals and a tank are very much a necessity.
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  10. #19
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    PrincessNuri's Avatar
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    Miss Romania
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    Zalera
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    Warrior Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by ChameleonMS View Post
    I queue in progress as a Tank for the dailies. I say thank you to tanks like you. I get to run shortened instances and my arrival is always praised. So, to you, and all the other rage quit impatient tanks out there. Thank you for making life easier for me.
    You're very welcome! However, I always leave at the start when I find out the type of run it will be so unfortunately it isn't at all shortened.
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  11. #20
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    Calista Fallon
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    Coeurl
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    Bard Lv 100
    I started playing just under 6 months ago and have hardly seen any cutscenes that involve a pug group. Toxic environment here, man's inhumanity against man...it only gets worse when you get further along in game. I don't mind waiting at all, but that's me
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