Black Mage Sanctuary - A Guide to DPS

[Garotte14]

Just to Echo what a few others have said:

Yes, Flare opener is outdated. It was viable in 3.0 because of the 10s AF and the low Spell Speed. Now, the only time it would be beneficial, would be on multiple targets as others have said.

Also, I've started using the opener where you cast 4 Fire IVs in a row on fights where I know I won't be moving during the opener. It is definitely a very potent opener and incredibly strong if you get the second proc. I would still suggest using the standard one if there is a chance you will have to move during your opener. But if you know you're good for the first 30s, I highly suggest using it. Here are both openers with the differences:

Use if you will not have to move
SC > QS > LL > Fire > Enochian + Raging Strikes > F3P > Potion > Fire IVx2 > Fire(no proc) > Fire IV > SC > Fire IV + Convert > Fire IVx2 > Blizzard III > T1 > Blizzard IV.

SC > QS > LL > Fire > Enochian + Raging Strikes > F3P > Potion > Fire IVx2 > Fire(procs) > Fire IV > F3P + SC > Fire IV + Convert > Fire IVx2 > Blizzard III > Thunder > Blizzard IV.

Use if there is potential movement
SC > QS > LL > Fire > Enochian + Raging Strikes > F3P > Potion > Fire IVx3 > Fire(no proc) > SC > Fire IV + Convert > Fire IVx2 > Blizzard III > T1 > Blizzard IV.

SC > QS > LL > Fire > Enochian + Raging Strikes > F3P > Potion > Fire IVx3 > Fire(procs) > SC > Fire IV + Convert > Fire IVx2 > Blizzard III > Thunder > Blizzard IV.

The PPS between both openers where you don't get the proc are in fact identical. The first is riskier because you'll cast Fire IVx4 w/o refreshing AF. It is doable but definitely not worth losing AF if you get targeted by an AoE.

However, if you do get the proc, you can weave both Swiftcast and Convert under instant casts. This greatly increases PPS.

[Waliel]

Yes, Flare opener is outdated. It was viable in 3.0 because of the 10s AF and the low Spell Speed. Now, the only time it would be beneficial, would be on multiple targets as others have said.

It may technically be outdated, but will 45 or so potency difference between Flare and F4 in the opener actually matter at all? Other than min/max, of course.

Use if you will not have to move
SC > QS > LL > Fire > Enochian + Raging Strikes > F3P > Potion > Fire IVx2 > Fire(no proc) > Fire IV > SC > Fire IV + Convert > Fire IVx2 > Blizzard III > T1 > Blizzard IV.

Use if there is potential movement
SC > QS > LL > Fire > Enochian + Raging Strikes > F3P > Potion > Fire IVx3 > Fire(no proc) > SC > Fire IV + Convert > Fire IVx2 > Blizzard III > T1 > Blizzard IV.

I may have become stupid in the time I haven't played this game, but shouldn't the PPS be identical between those two?

[frostfirefawcett]

I may have become stupid in the time I haven't played this game, but shouldn't the PPS be identical between those two?

They are, the difference is only if you get a proc.

[Lavitz_]

It may technically be outdated, but will 45 or so potency difference between Flare and F4 in the opener actually matter at all? Other than min/max, of course.

Does doing more DPS matter at all? Of course it does.

[zuzu-bq]

Snip.

Garotte14 just organized in a way that makes easier to handle the proc. And yeah the potency makes a huge difference when its under Intelligence Potion and Raging Strikes (Foes, Trick Attack and Litany too).

[Milkbeard]

[QUOTE=Garotte14;3849046]Just to Echo what a few others have said:

Use if you will not have to move
SC > QS > LL > Fire > Enochian + Raging Strikes > F3P > Potion > Fire IVx2 > Fire(no proc) > Fire IV > SC > Fire IV + Convert > Fire IVx2 > Blizzard III > T1 > Blizzard IV.

SC > QS > LL > Fire > Enochian + Raging Strikes > F3P > Potion > Fire IVx2 > Fire(procs) > Fire IV > F3P + SC > Fire IV + Convert > Fire IVx2 > Blizzard III > Thunder > Blizzard IV.


Wouldn't it be better to move raging strikes forward in the opener a little? so you can snapshot t1 still? I guess all that would be looking at is what is more potent, a RS> 1AF F3P vs. RS> T1


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