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    FF has a known twist where the good benevolent being turns out to not be soo benevolent. I reckon the WoD were either told the truth or they were tricked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laerune View Post
    FF has a known twist where the good benevolent being turns out to not be soo benevolent. I reckon the WoD were either told the truth or they were tricked.
    And which game did that? Only one I know at the top of my head was FFX.
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    Well, off the top of my head XII did that with the Occuria. That's kinda why I don't want Hydaelyn to end up being a villain. I'd rather both Hydaelyn and Zodiark to be more grey-and-complicated, but ultimately for Hydaelyn's intentions to be good.
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    Last edited by Naria; 09-08-2016 at 05:45 AM.

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    Totally forgot about them. But even then, the Occuria seemed very suspect at the start.
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    It's a classic trope in Japanese RPG's in general, not just the Final Fantasy franchise. Grandia 2 is an excellent example of the trope in question as is at least one of the Breath of Fire games.
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    I hope we fight the warriors of darkness in a fight like XI's Ark Angel fight. I kinda sorta view them as this game's Ark Angles.
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    well from what I seen, I think I know how our character isn't with or is the WOD, the elezen lady in the opening from 1.0, a Fantasia potion and the old elezen guy saving you from being a WOD or enslaved by those darn Ascians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Powe View Post
    the elezen lady in the opening from 1.0, a Fantasia potion and the old elezen guy saving you from being a WOD or enslaved by those darn Ascians.
    The female elezen GLA from the malboro battle in the 1.0 opening is actually the elezen BLM in Real!Derplander's/Evil!Derplander's parties, the male elezen in the Drowning Wench in the same opening according to Ferne parted company with Derplander after the 1.0 opening movie and is currently MIA.

    The End of an Era/A New Beginning scene was meant to show the BLM's model as being more obviously female in appearance, but Square Enix Visual Works mucked up and gave the model a male elezen body shape. Ferne clarified this a while ago, in the huge old 'CG Midlander' thread on the old 1.0 forum (the same thread that actually led to the Lore forum being added in the first place!):

    Quote Originally Posted by Fernehalwes
    So yes, the Midlander male, Miqo’te female, Roegadyn male, Elezen female, and Lalafell female in the recent trailers are in fact the same ones that appeared in the 1.0 trailer! (Yes, the black mage is the Elezen female from the morbol party, not the snooty male from the Midlander’s party. The robe & hat conceal some of her more distinguishing features, and we all know there was no bust size adjustment feature back in 1.0).
    So basically, Derplander's party in both End of an Era and the ARR/Hw trailers, opening movie, and also Evil!Derplander's party the BLM is actually an elezen woman and not a man. This isn't a weird inversion of what happened with Nael van Darnus in T9 though (being simply a mistake made by SE Visual Works), but that's an entirely different barrel of moogles!
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    They also botched up the Heavensward trailer by having Derplander fighting Hraesvelgr instead of Nidhogg and there was no time left to correct it, so they went with it. Funny how that turned out since we fight Hraesvelgr anyway.
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    We don't yet know who the WoD are, but they all seem to at least be inspired by the 1.0 cgi characters. It's still hard to tell, but the BLM Elezen looks looks male to me:
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