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  1. #211
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    Blackbird1's Avatar
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    Blackbird Eingrad
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    Balmung
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    Samurai Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by TaranTatsuuchi View Post
    20 to 30 mil?

    Back when the last set of wards was added, the scalpers on Balmung were trying to sell small plots in goblet for 50mil, and other wards for 75+mil.
    well when i seen this it was that price on the smaller servers this was a long time ago wouldnt be surprise if they go for 200 mil now for small plots alone
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  2. #212
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    polyphonica's Avatar
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    T'yena Mitnu
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    Midgardsormr
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    White Mage Lv 90
    This is a late reply, but just to confirm: the apartments are per ward (including subdivisions) and not one per country. This is confirmed by Yoshida during the recent Letter from the Producer at around 2:09:20 in the Twitch stream, and is also mentioned on the 4gamer summary of the stream which states:

    このアパルトメントは,3国の冒険者居住区の各区画に1棟ずつ建ち,部屋の代金は50万ギルになるという。

    The Japanese ff14wiki also clarifies:

    ハウジングエリアの区画1つにつき、一棟。拡張エリアにも立つ。1棟あたり512戸。 12区+拡張エリア=24区。24区×三国=72区。72×512戸=1ワールドあたり36,864戸ということになる。

    Yoshida also mentioned on the live stream that, if it wasn't enough, they could still add more (but I tend to think this will be enough for all but the absolute busiest of servers, at least for now).
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  3. #213
    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Kosmos Meishou
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    Behemoth
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by polyphonica View Post
    This is a late reply, but just to confirm: the apartments are per ward (including subdivisions) and not one per country. This is confirmed by Yoshida during the recent Letter from the Producer at around 2:09:20 in the Twitch stream, and is also mentioned on the 4gamer summary of the stream which states:

    このアパルトメントは,3国の冒険者居住区の各区画に1棟ずつ建ち,部屋の代金は50万ギルになるという。

    The Japanese ff14wiki also clarifies:

    ハウジングエリアの区画1つにつき、一棟。拡張エリアにも立つ。1棟あたり512戸。 12区+拡張エリア=24区。24区×三国=72区。72×512戸=1ワールドあたり36,864戸ということになる。

    Yoshida also mentioned on the live stream that, if it wasn't enough, they could still add more (but I tend to think this will be enough for all but the absolute busiest of servers, at least for now).
    Excellent, that was the only way to do it that makes sense. The images always looked like the apartment building was in the housing wards, so it seemed obvious.
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  4. #214
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    Reinha's Avatar
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Odin
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by polyphonica View Post
    This is a late reply, but just to confirm: the apartments are per ward (including subdivisions) and not one per country. This is confirmed by Yoshida during the recent Letter from the Producer at around 2:09:20 in the Twitch stream, and is also mentioned on the 4gamer summary of the stream which states:

    このアパルトメントは,3国の冒険者居住区の各区画に1棟ずつ建ち,部屋の代金は50万ギルになるという。

    The Japanese ff14wiki also clarifies:

    ハウジングエリアの区画1つにつき、一棟。拡張エリアにも立つ。1棟あたり512戸。 12区+拡張エリア=24区。24区×三国=72区。72×512戸=1ワールドあたり36,864戸ということになる。

    Yoshida also mentioned on the live stream that, if it wasn't enough, they could still add more (but I tend to think this will be enough for all but the absolute busiest of servers, at least for now).
    Hahah, there will be about 3 times as many apartments as there are active players on my server.
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  5. #215
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    Aylis Tessier
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    Balmung
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by myahele View Post
    So I am thinking the infrastructure/ coding was never meant for such a massive player base, so now they kinda have to make due with what they started out with.
    There's that and on top of that, doing things very much out of order and making too many mistakes. Apartments really should have came directly after FC housing. THEN FC rooms. Single player housing mixed in with FC housing really should have never been a thing either especially since the system allows multiple characters on one account to own multiple houses instead of having one house account shared. That's my biggest concern with apartments if they did or did not learn from that mistake given that apartment space will also be limited.
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  6. #216
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    LalafellDown's Avatar
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    Tonberry
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    I'm fine with people having houses, but when the developers lock content behind houses that most people can't get into because people are buying them up just to resell them that's where I draw the line. That means I'm not getting my full experience of the game. I would love to build an airship for my FC, but I cant no houses available. I would love to grow my own garden so I can craft some of those minions that are only available to house owners. I would love to craft furniture and decorate a house. I would love to go on explorations with my airship, but I cant. So why lock content behind a limited resource?

    I pay money for this game I should have access to everything in this game as long as I work for it. Things that I choose not to do like savage is my choice and the blame falls on me for not having the top weapon. When they limit the houses to a few and lock content behind it means I'm only getting 90% of the game while others get 100% because they where fortunate enough to buy a house during the rush. I cant work for house content because the Dev's fail to provide enough houses.

    Can I pay SE more money to have a house reserved or should SE cut the cost of my sub because they cant provide me the full experience of the game?
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  7. #217
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    Zafrei's Avatar
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    Thaiden Black
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    Odin
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    Ninja Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by LalafellDown View Post
    I'm fine with people having houses, but when the developers lock content behind houses that most people can't get into because people are buying them up just to resell them that's where I draw the line. That means I'm not getting my full experience of the game. I would love to build an airship for my FC, but I cant no houses available. I would love to grow my own garden so I can craft some of those minions that are only available to house owners. I would love to craft furniture and decorate a house. I would love to go on explorations with my airship, but I cant. So why lock content behind a limited resource?

    I pay money for this game I should have access to everything in this game as long as I work for it. Things that I choose not to do like savage is my choice and the blame falls on me for not having the top weapon. When they limit the houses to a few and lock content behind it means I'm only getting 90% of the game while others get 100% because they where fortunate enough to buy a house during the rush. I cant work for house content because the Dev's fail to provide enough houses.

    Can I pay SE more money to have a house reserved or should SE cut the cost of my sub because they cant provide me the full experience of the game?
    Obviously a lot of this is server pop dependant, but slots open up all the time. A few weeks back our FC moved and created a brand new FC for various reasons, took maybe 2 days of scouting once the FC was a high enough tier for us to find a space.
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  8. #218
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    Light Khah
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    Moogle
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    Wow nice information. Finally my skeptic side did not win in this one. Now we only need to know if we can buy apartments even if we already have houses or if not.
    Since there are so many apartments it would be nice to get one as another room since my small house is already at its limit X_X. But even if its possible to buy more than one apartment or even just one I will still wait some days, so that people that don't have house will surely get one.

    Or would it still be bad? Don't want to take them away from someone that needs one but at the same time with such a high number, it should be enough?
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    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

  9. #219
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    SinisterJointss's Avatar
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    Shadow Menace
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    Behemoth
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    Archer Lv 59
    Honestly there just needs to be rules in place in regards to housing. 1 personal house PER ACCOUNT, PER SERVER. Make access to the house account wide. (For all those "but my alt" people). This will free up some housing while also getting rid of the real estate agents we have that go around selling them.

    FC houses dont count for obvious reasons.

    As far as server population goes. SE needs to offer free transfers OFF the highest population servers. (and only those) for a few months. This will direct the flow a bit more to other servers. Also at the same time restrict transferring to those same high pop servers.

    IMO these problems are easily fixable. Give people (read accounts) 30 days to get their crap out of their alt housing and after that 30 day mark boom, plots are open.
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  10. #220
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    Mide Uyagir
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    Coeurl
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SinisterJointss View Post
    Honestly there just needs to be rules in place in regards to housing. 1 personal house PER ACCOUNT, PER SERVER. Make access to the house account wide. (For all those "but my alt" people).
    Making housing an even more limited and uncustomizable feature does not improve the system.
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