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    Bard PVP burst?

    any ideas on a good burst and rotation? any tips in general?
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    Seeing as how no one is actually being helpful to you, try this thread: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ced-%28Bard%29

    I don't actually play Brd, so I'm mostly clueless on what's happening here. All I know is what buffs to look for when the Brd is prepping the burst (which I learned by asking someone else in that thread). I'm hoping that, since you actually play Brd, you might be able to make some more sense out of it then I can. Good luck.
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    Last edited by Februs; 09-07-2016 at 05:23 PM.

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    I don't play bard, but I get killed by bard burst a ton! Bard is all about doing a ton of damage in 3s every 90s.

    (Before burst) Put your dots up on two people, you don't want to make it too obvious who you are bursting. Make sure you refresh straight shot too.

    WM>Raging (if up)> hawk eye> b4b (if not being focused)> barrage

    (Burst, on target with dots, this is the roll you face part)
    Emp arrow>sidewinder>farshot>spam misery's end

    If you crit it'll do 10k+ damage in like 3 seconds.

    Practice this on a dummy a bunch, now you can bard! Don't forget to use your PvP ability 'manasong' on your healers, we like when you do that.
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    Last edited by TiramisuMacaron; 09-07-2016 at 06:42 PM.

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    Study this. Watch the bard, their buffs, and skill order. This is all you need to know.

    http://imgur.com/a/p0sm7
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    In general you want to treat Brd burst kind of how you do in PvE. Barrage + Buff + Emp. The interesting part of bursting is being able to understand the dmg you will potentially deal. Yes, bards can snipe people but sometimes you get a healer that is aware of your burst or a tank that will stun lock you. At that point you should allocate enough to finish someone off, assuming the melee is good and weakened the opponent..... Or you have a melee that can act as a finisher.

    You shouldn't stick to a particular burst rotation because some people watch for your buffs. So just mess around with dealing dmg by various means. So that you can use the basic bard burst but then switch it up depending on how much you want the healer to cry.

    TL;DR
    Remember the A, B, C's of your burst and expand upon it in your own way.
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    Last edited by Makuro; 09-08-2016 at 04:38 PM.

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    It's also important to know your maximum damage range. You can go to Wolf Den pier and spam one skill like Heavy Shot on a trainning dummy from different ranges, and you'll notice how less damage you do after exactly 15 yalms. With WM up you'll do the same damage at 0-15y, but without it at point blank the damage is very low, mediocre at 15y and low again at higher range.

    The burst with all buffs up without lucky crits damages around 70-80% HP bar so never do it on anyone with full HP, because it'll give a healer a second or two to react and heal. But if you are bursting the healer, immediatelly after triple Empyreal Arrow+Sidewinder+Farshot use Blunt Arrow, 1 second silence will also give time to fit in fast Mysery and Bloodletter for a guaranteed finisher.

    Do not burst anyone when attuned (know it's icon), when anyone stands on greenish Sacred Prism, when someone is covered (know it's icon), when there's tank LB or Testudo in action (know their icons).

    Ranged LB is usually wasted, the best use for it it's probably after enemy healer dies and their team runs back to base, pick a target with 50% HP, Shadowbind it and LB quickly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makuro View Post
    In general you want to treat Brd burst kind of how you do in PvE. Barrage + Buff + Emp. The interesting part of bursting is being able to understand the dmg you will potentially deal. Yes, bards can snipe people but sometimes you get a healer that is aware of your burst or a tank that will stun lock you. At that point you should allocate enough to finish someone off, assuming the melee is good and weakened the opponent..... Or you have a melee that can act as a finisher.

    You shouldn't stick to a particular burst rotation because some people watch for your buffs. So just mess around with dealing dmg by various means. So that you can use the basic bard burst but then switch it up depending on how much you want the healer to cry.

    TL;DR
    Remember the A, B, C's of your burst and expand upon it in your own way.
    go away. stop teaching them. 1 of you is bad enough to deal with.
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