So Long, Thanks for all the Fish

[Berethos]

I have to agree with the OP. It was the "first" thing that broke the immersion for me. Because after Titan you are this great warrior so saved the realm from a possible primal rampage! Why do I have to go an get this "item" from another city when the scions are already employing all these helpers?

You're not being employed to do a task, you're helping out a friend. It's the Eorzean equivalent of if you're buddy asked you to run out to McDonald's and grab him a burger and fries while he's stuck at work and you're not.

[SpookyGhost]

What is utterly asinine, are the 100 quests of filler fetch, go here and talk to this dude type of quests. The straw that broke the back as it were for me, was the requirement of doing some hard mode trials for Ifrit, Titan and Garuda, to continue on the story of the new astral era.

Confused by this bit. You don't like the fetch quests which I can totally understand, hated them myself, but I dunno how that relates to having to do actual content like the HM trials to progress the story. Don't get me wrong, the requirement to do those outdated primals to progress the story is a problem in and of itself, but surely unrelated to your initial qualm with the MSQ.

Anyway, I've found that in order to enjoy the story in XIV you have to essentially play it only for the story. The dungeons are boring early on, any monsters you have to go fight die in a few hits and do 1 AOE, you have very few skills until 30~40+, etc. etc. You basically just have to suffer through the MSQ to get to end game where... well, to be honest, not much going on there either but at least it's more fun than the MSQ. Not that the story isn't a great experience in and of itself, at least up to HW, but the actual questing is super boring.

[StormDisciple]

Confused by this bit. You don\\'t like the fetch quests which I can totally understand, hated them myself, but I dunno how that relates to having to do actual content like the HM trials to progress the story. Don\\'t get me wrong, the requirement to do those outdated primals to progress the story is a problem in and of itself, but surely unrelated to your initial qualm with the MSQ.

It's not doing the hard mode Trials that was the problem. It was the "Oh by the by, go do this quest that ISN'T a MQ to unlock this stuff to DO the MQ" nature of it. They sent me off the already winding g course to take a random detour. It was the perverbial cheery on top of an already overburdened Sundae.

Some people like nuts, fudge, chocolate, sprinkles and whipped cream on their sundae, I however would have liked not having to slog through all the toppings for my ice cream.

[Black_Wing]

Yes FF is known for the story but this isnt a single player FF game, its an mmo so they shoved a load of fetch quests in to bulk it up.

All the FF games I've played never had such mundane fetch quests. So the 'but its a FF game' argument is a bit redundant.

Those fetch quests flesh out the world with lore elements that people skip out on by well..skipping cutscenes and ignored text boxes.

[bass9020]

If they didn't have the fetch quests how would you level? People begged SE for a quick way to level up since 1.0 MSQs were fewer and offered no rewards. Blame the player base for wanting this exp/fetch quest stuff.

[Vidu]

It's not doing the hard mode Trials that was the problem. It was the "Oh by the by, go do this quest that ISN'T a MQ to unlock this stuff to DO the MQ" nature of it.

What do you mean by this? Are you refering to Qarn being added to the MQ? Because I really dont recall having to do HMs in order to unlock MQ - only in order to unlock coil, which isnt mainstory at all.

About getting tea leafes for Tataru... yes, we know thats a filler. We know it was only there to drag out the MQ-patch at the time it was relevant. Yes, we've heard how much it sucks that you have to play through the story with all those fillers when you only want to go to Ishgard and become a DRK.
And, here are the good news: The devs listend to complains like this and said they gonna change the requirements to play the 4.0 story.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

If they didn't have the fetch quests how would you level? People begged SE for a quick way to level up since 1.0 MSQs were fewer and offered no rewards. Blame the player base for wanting this exp/fetch quest stuff.

Buff the EXP to accommodate. We managed in Heavensward despite fetch quests being substantially decreased. Nonetheless, it isn't fetch quests in and of themselves, but the sheer amount that tends to bog people down.

A particular egregious example is the lead up to fighting Titan, wherein the whole company of heroes nonsense takes up twenty six quests of nothing. You aren't advancing the story, you aren't even preparing for Titan himself. You're literally running errands for some random nobody because he's being a stubborn twat. Y'Shtola yelling at him for precisely wasting your time borders on fourth wall breaking because it's certainly how I felt doing that questline. Compare this to say, recruiting for the Crystal Braves. Both technically have you running around, but only one feels like you're accomplishing something whereas the other breaks immersion (at least for me) and feels like the devs ran out of ideas and decided to simply pad things out.

That arc is one of the few instances I legitimately considered skipping all the dialogue because I was bored and annoyed. In a story centric game, those aren't feelings you want your audience to have.

[StormDisciple]

In the 7th astral era quests, the requirements to do Good Intentions I am required to have the bowl of embers, howling eye and navel unlocked. Which means I gotta do the series that starts with If Ifrit bleeds, we can kill it.

Thats what I mean.

[Mwynn]

In the Time someone complains in here, they could basically have done 10 of these Quests...
People always make an Elephant out of a Fly when it is not even neccessary *rolls eyes*

Heavensward already has a really cut down Main Story with almost a very few Fetch Quests compared to ARR.
Cutting all that Stuff from ARR away means you're cutting Part of the Lore World away.

Might aswell get the Lore Book, rip out some Sites and burn the Book afterwards because curse these extra Pages

[Vidu]

In the 7th astral era quests, the requirements to do Good Intentions I am required to have the bowl of embers, howling eye and navel unlocked. Which means I gotta do the series that starts with If Ifrit bleeds, we can kill it.

Thats what I mean.

Oh, you're indeed correct... do makes me wonder why they've included that though... and while I can understand the frustration of reaching a point in the MQ that requires you to do something diffrent to progress - isnt that what you liked? ;P Like, trials...?

Still, it seems weird that they added such a requirement... anyone recalls some reasons for doing so?