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    Nekotee's Avatar
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    Akihiko Hoshie
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    I don't think spellspeed is a bad stat for a sch
    Because all his dps is based on DoT which is boost by spellspeed

    And when crit is random spellspeed is not (adding that some extra broil)

    Plus... Bonus mind mean all adlo are boost
    When crit only boost critadlo
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    Purple Rain
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekotee View Post
    I don't think spellspeed is a bad stat for a sch
    Because all his dps is based on DoT which is boost by spellspeed
    DET boosts DoTs more than SpS, and CRIT is likely to boost them even more (but this isn't known for sure as far as I know).

    Quote Originally Posted by Nekotee View Post
    And when crit is random spellspeed is not (adding that some extra broil)
    Quoting myself from the link you obviously didn't even open before replying:
    Quote Originally Posted by Taika View Post
    Comparing a healer with 600 SpS and 1000 SpS, the latter is able to squeeze in an extra cast only if they cast 15 spells in a row without any breaks or movement (16th cast would be the extra one, and it requires 36 seconds of straight casting without any breaks). Even in this situation SpS is only the stronger choise if that 16th cast from the SpS healer would be worth more than the bonuses the non-SpS healer would gain from Crit / Det on all the 15 casts combined (if the 16 casts from SpS healer would result in more healing / damage points than the 15 casts from Crit/Det healer). It's not currently known if that's the case.
    Adding to CRIT will add your crit chance by certain % (which I don't have a source for), so while it's random in the sense that a single cast may or may not crit, increasing your CRIT stat will add to your CRIT % by certain amount.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nekotee View Post
    Plus... Bonus mind mean all adlo are boost
    When crit only boost critadlo
    MND does boost everything, yes, but so does CRIT (it affects your entire CRIT rate for all heal and DPS casts and DoT ticks). For SCH the real question (already brought up in the OP) is if the gained crit shields are worth the lost MND, and if boost from CRIT is more significant than the boost gained from MND + other secondary stat combined, which is hard to tell.
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    Last edited by Taika; 09-05-2016 at 06:22 PM.

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    Senna Belizaire
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taika View Post
    MND does boost everything, yes, but so does CRIT (it affects your entire CRIT rate for all heal and DPS casts and DoT ticks). For SCH the real question (already brought up in the OP) is if the gained crit shields are worth the lost MND, and if boost from CRIT is more significant than the boost gained from MND + other secondary stat combined, which is hard to tell.
    The answer to that question is different for every fight. The end result is that you could make a different BiS for every turn if you wanted, but most people just go with the highest item level gear with a vague preference for crit because SCH/healer secondary stats aren't critical the way spellspeed is for a BLM, for example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taika View Post
    DET boosts DoTs more than SpS, and CRIT is likely to boost them even more (but this isn't known for sure as far as I know).


    Quoting myself from the link you obviously didn't even open before replying:

    Adding to CRIT will add your crit chance by certain % (which I don't have a source for), so while it's random in the sense that a single cast may or may not crit, increasing your CRIT stat will add to your CRIT % by certain amount.
    Det is bad on sch. :] (Could be wrong, was pro-det, but some self testing pointed me towards ss.)

    If your choice is crit vs ss, go crit. If it's crit vs ss + mind, ss + mind is a fair option.
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    Last edited by Rawrz; 09-05-2016 at 08:54 PM.