Sch Feet question

[Supersun]

I've been wondering something. Which is better? the Augmented Hailstorm Boots of Healing or the Yafaemi Boots of Healing for Scholar DPS?

Augmented Hailstorm
81 Mnd
51 Piety
69 Spell Speed

Yafaemi
75 Mnd
49 Piety
65 Crit

For most things which armor you pick is obvious, but is it worth trading off 6 Mind and 69 Spell Speed for 65 Crit? (I have a high crit and spell speed build)

It'd be nice if Scholar stat weights were worked out a little bit more accurately than they currently are, but perhaps someone here has done the math before themselves.

I'm thinking that the 6 mind on the augmented will push those ahead since the stat weight for crit would have to be like .1 higher than spell speed to be worth it, but maybe it is? (I wouldn't think it would be since crit and spell speed aren't even .1 apart on Summoner and Crit is way more valuable on Smn and Spell Speed is relatively better on Sch. Those Crit Aldos though =3)

[Rawrz]

Spell speed isn't a poor choice as a secondary stat, especially if it comes with mind. I chose the augmented hailstorm over the savage and weeping equivalent. If it was det piety, like the savage counterpart, i would have went with the weeping shoes.

EDIT:

240- Word of the Magnate (120 Accuracy/120 Crit-Relic)
240- Augmented Hailstorm Crown of Healing (Lore)
230- Yafaemi Jacket of Healing (WCM) (Until A8S Top)
240- Augmented Hailstorm Gloves of Healing (Lore)
240- Augmented Hailstorm Belt of Healing (Lore)
240- Augmented Hailstorm Bottoms of Healing (Lore)
240- Hailstorm Boots of Healing (Lore)

240- Midan Neckband of Healing (A5s)
240- Midan Earrings of Healing (A5s)
240- Midan Bracelets of Healing (A5s)
240- Midan Ring of Healing (a5s) [Decrease piety loss, while increasing mind)
240- Augmented Primal Ring of Healing

9 Slots have accuracy Vs (+108 +120+354 makes accuracy 582. Good for most content and can cap for a8s with pipira at 599 accuracy.) 7 Slots of Crit Vs.


NOTE: When level syncing, in places such as Athereochemical Research Facility where you are ilevel synced, therefore losing materia, your Relic WILL retain its accuracy. Which means we shouldnt have accuracy issues going into synced content anymore.

Gonna switch to Savage pants this week to be over 13k mp and the crit boost. I feel like the piety actually outweighs determination in this case.

[Eul]

I don't know but I prefer all of my stats is crit. If I use the yafaemi boots it gives me over 1k crit lol.

[FoxyAreku]

Preference. I love crit, and am more than happy to give up a few points in mind if it gives me a lot of crit (more crit adlos is more healing/shielding done than those mind points would have given you, anyway, just downside is it's RNG).

[Taika]

The question is, is the loss of MND worth getting those CRIT points, and no one can really say. I went with Yafaemi feet and I'm currently running with 1214 (I think) CRIT on my SCH. My DPS crit on our last Hummelfaust kill (2 min) was 28% (we had a DRG) and on A5S boss (6 min) 25%.

Spell speed isn't a poor choice as a secondary stat, especially if it comes with mind.

Yes it is, and especially for a SCH.

[Nekotee]

I don't think spellspeed is a bad stat for a sch
Because all his dps is based on DoT which is boost by spellspeed

And when crit is random spellspeed is not (adding that some extra broil)

Plus... Bonus mind mean all adlo are boost
When crit only boost critadlo

[Taika]

I don't think spellspeed is a bad stat for a sch
Because all his dps is based on DoT which is boost by spellspeed

DET boosts DoTs more than SpS, and CRIT is likely to boost them even more (but this isn't known for sure as far as I know).

And when crit is random spellspeed is not (adding that some extra broil)

Quoting myself from the link you obviously didn't even open before replying:

Comparing a healer with 600 SpS and 1000 SpS, the latter is able to squeeze in an extra cast only if they cast 15 spells in a row without any breaks or movement (16th cast would be the extra one, and it requires 36 seconds of straight casting without any breaks). Even in this situation SpS is only the stronger choise if that 16th cast from the SpS healer would be worth more than the bonuses the non-SpS healer would gain from Crit / Det on all the 15 casts combined (if the 16 casts from SpS healer would result in more healing / damage points than the 15 casts from Crit/Det healer). It's not currently known if that's the case.

Adding to CRIT will add your crit chance by certain % (which I don't have a source for), so while it's random in the sense that a single cast may or may not crit, increasing your CRIT stat will add to your CRIT % by certain amount.

Plus... Bonus mind mean all adlo are boost
When crit only boost critadlo

MND does boost everything, yes, but so does CRIT (it affects your entire CRIT rate for all heal and DPS casts and DoT ticks). For SCH the real question (already brought up in the OP) is if the gained crit shields are worth the lost MND, and if boost from CRIT is more significant than the boost gained from MND + other secondary stat combined, which is hard to tell.

[CBellz]

MND does boost everything, yes, but so does CRIT (it affects your entire CRIT rate for all heal and DPS casts and DoT ticks). For SCH the real question (already brought up in the OP) is if the gained crit shields are worth the lost MND, and if boost from CRIT is more significant than the boost gained from MND + other secondary stat combined, which is hard to tell.

The answer to that question is different for every fight. The end result is that you could make a different BiS for every turn if you wanted, but most people just go with the highest item level gear with a vague preference for crit because SCH/healer secondary stats aren't critical the way spellspeed is for a BLM, for example.

[Nekotee]

I did read the post from AST anima
The thing is i do not forcefully agree with everything

While I agree on détermination which is always a gain

Crit seems good only if it happends which is so random
You can have fight with shit ton of crit happening while having non on the next fight

Right now most people tend to aim 1000+ crit which give 20/21% rate of crit
Doesn't mean every 5 spell you Will have a crit one

It's also true that crit benefit strongly to DoT because it's tick have indépendant crit chance
But deter and spellspeed enhance them permanently (less i admit) but it's more sure

In the OP case
He might lose 1 or 2% of crit rate depending how much he had
But the mind benefit is way better overall in fight

....

I was an all crit sch before
But changed because adding more and more crit wasn't helping in the end... And to have lots of crit i did needed 220 stuff
And 240 stuff is good...

And also i switch to ast which a lot of fun and crit is not that needed for ast

[Rawrz]

DET boosts DoTs more than SpS, and CRIT is likely to boost them even more (but this isn't known for sure as far as I know).


Quoting myself from the link you obviously didn't even open before replying:

Adding to CRIT will add your crit chance by certain % (which I don't have a source for), so while it's random in the sense that a single cast may or may not crit, increasing your CRIT stat will add to your CRIT % by certain amount.

Det is bad on sch. :] (Could be wrong, was pro-det, but some self testing pointed me towards ss.)

If your choice is crit vs ss, go crit. If it's crit vs ss + mind, ss + mind is a fair option.