Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Ametrine]

A cross-server blacklist would be interesting. But we'd probably run into similar problems that OW got with its "Avoid This Player" function, which they removed.

Overwatch's situation is different, however.

The issue there was discovered when they realized that players were blocking the highest ranked Widowmaker so much that the guy couldn't get into a match. That's a huge issue when you account the fact that Blizzard is trying to put Overwatch in the same catagory as Counter-Strike in competitive gaming, and the best players can't actually play the game from others frustratingly blocking them.

FFXIV isn't built on that. Sure, PVP exists here, but meeting a genuinely nasty person in your party and wanting to never deal with them again is more legitimate than "bro too OP, avoid."

[Musashidon]

FFXIV isn't built on that. Sure, PVP exists here, but meeting a genuinely nasty person in your party and wanting to never deal with them again is more legitimate than "bro too OP, avoid."

but that isn't what will happen.

*oh look the healer didn't dps at all blacklist*

*oh look this healer is dpsing i hate healers who dps blacklist*

till everyone on your server can't que together because someone hates someone in your group.

[synesthetic]

Overwatch's situation is different, however.

It is different, but I can imagine that there'd still be problems.

For example, all of the "elitists" who don't want to play with "scrubs".
Or all of the players who resent it when people try to give them advice that they don't want.
And then maybe throw in circumstances like premades and raids.

Someone parties with their friend who's blocked, and they queue up together. Would that person get fewer party matches just for wanting to play with their friend?
Someone in a 24-man has a person blocked. Will that person be prevented from joining the alliance? Or alternatively, what if the person has someone in the 24-man blocked.
Cross-server Raid Finder where a minority of the playerbase plays, patience is even thinner, and skill requirements are far tighter. The issues above would be more pronounced.

[Archaell]

but that isn't what will happen.

*oh look the healer didn't dps at all blacklist*

*oh look this healer is dpsing i hate healers who dps blacklist*

till everyone on your server can't que together because someone hates someone in your group.

This is exactly what would happen... but I don't think that it is a bad thing. If the players want to have some control over the players they are grouped up with in exchange for longer que times they should be allowed to do it in my opinion.

No point in forcing sheep to play with wolves, better to keep them separated.

[Esp]

It's why I always feel so nervous before giving advice. Even though it is just to help the other player become better and to help the group succeed.

I understand how you feel right here. You want it say something, just to let them know some of the cool things their current job is capable of, but you feel if you do, then they would take that the wrong way and could be a potential group breaker.

I had a similar experience doing my second relic dungeon runs on AST yesterday. Dusk Vigil, party was me, a BRD, PLD and a NIN. Aside from the BRD not using WM, it was the NIN that got me. In level 56 gear, and never, ever used Huton. Not even once throughout the entire dungeon.

As NIN is my DPS of choice, it bothered me a bit. Never ever using one of NINs most important self buffs, instead opting for either Raiton, or even Fuma in some cases. This went on pack after pack, boss after boss, for me, it was rough to watch..

I wanted to say something, anything to get this NIN to use his most important buff in his toolkit, but I just couldn't do it, fearing the response I would get if I did, even though it was just going to be a friendly reminder.

I've tried before, with PLDs that never used flash, and it never went well. It was either silence I got or worse.

Fearing the 'worst', I just kept quiet and let things play out. It didn't hurt the run itself in anyway, but it's hard to know how someone will take advice these days, even the most helpful kind..

[SaitoHikari]

Had a Sohr Khai run with a DRK/WHM/BRD/BRD setup. For once I had a co-Bard that was actually better than me. We smashed it in 17 minutes.

The world has ended.

[WeekendSoja]

God I have some luck tonight.

I run expert on roulette, me as WAR with a DRG, WHM, and BLM. Hull HM, takes 10 minutes to get to first boss, along the way the DRG informs me that the big buffalo "SHOULD be stunned" and I reply back with "Yeah it should, but your spineshatter dive and leg sweep paired with my stun are putting it on DR early" and than this lovely reply, "wtf is DR?" From there I just decided to see what happens...and we wipe to the first boss of Hull HM...didn't even know that was possible but when your teams DPS is so low you have 2-3 waves pop on top of you...it's possible. I leave the pt and move to my Alt.

Alt has better luck, sohr khai and we make it to first boss in 4 minutes, tanks leaves the pt while running up the stairs to moglin...no tank queues in progress...called it a night from there.

[Maerwen]

Mentor daily que'd me with on progress Qarn NM with 3 sproutlings. They were by the first boss. Apparently the healer left because they were all new but to be honest they did such fantastic job through out the run. I didn't even have to heal them too much, not even the tank. I wish I can comm them all.

[Bebekurenai]

God I have some luck tonight.

I run expert on roulette, me as WAR with a DRG, WHM, and BLM. Hull HM, takes 10 minutes to get to first boss, along the way the DRG informs me that the big buffalo "SHOULD be stunned" and I reply back with "Yeah it should, but your spineshatter dive and leg sweep paired with my stun are putting it on DR early" and than this lovely reply, "wtf is DR?" From there I just decided to see what happens...and we wipe to the first boss of Hull HM...didn't even know that was possible but when your teams DPS is so low you have 2-3 waves pop on top of you...it's possible. I leave the pt and move to my Alt.

Alt has better luck, sohr khai and we make it to first boss in 4 minutes, tanks leaves the pt while running up the stairs to moglin...no tank queues in progress...called it a night from there.

And what is DR? duty roulette? doctor? I honestly don't know XD

[WeekendSoja]

In the context of debuffs its diminishing returns. How applying the same debuff creates an immunity to that debuff for a certain amount of time.

It's a context thing and your examples kind of went through the roof in regards to decoding the context but as long as you know what DR is and can now talk to others and find out who's been playing this game for well over the life span of 2.0, you can enjoy nostalgic reminicence of the good ol' days where DR was first implemented.