I just can't understand the mentality. + My thoughts.

[Kaze3434]

Sad day we live in, when voicing an opinion once about FFXIV in half a years time is 1 time too many.

having and voicing an opinion is fine. lying to make a point isnt.

[Ramen]

Use the first LS for an example, why there will be a "debate" for an hour...
As you said people are having religion about something and can't even take tiny bit of other's opinion, but maybe you also keep some type of religion. You can't make a clap with one hand; You can't debate if there is no other side. Also, I know it's not really fair, you don't really need to defend yourself that much... maybe you are too defensive. You are sort of start to fight with everyone that replied here...
I think what I want to say is that raise an opinion is good, but don't expect that you will convert people. In fact, I won't read the further replies here because I don't really care. this is my opinion, and I don't want to debate about it.

Second, it doesn't matter the "discussion" is civil or no, some people will get tired of it. If your relationship to the LS is weaker than person A, B or C, they will give up of you doesn't matter with how long you stay there. it's the quality of time counts. So, maybe it's not due to one time chatty discussion section.......

[MeiUshu]

@Athena

I am not in agreement with most of what people told you in here at all, your opinion matters who cant take an opinion and needs to shun people, t hrow them away or make them feel trash for having a different vision or thoughts or opinion good or bad should reassess themselves. In this age, people want to hear only what they want to hear anything that does not go towards their direction is by definition bad a threat and nobody likes to be threatened so what is the best way to get rid of what is threatening you is to cast them away and lebell them.

You have two ways to go about, first, the easiest, is to start thinking and abid by what the majority thinks and by that their thoughts become yours or, second, the hardest, keep thinking, keep believing and moving in accordance with your believes, thoughts, hopes and wishes, keep voicing them and dont care much what others believe think or would like you to think, but understand this if you take this road you will be shun casted and set aside often. There arent many people secure enough in who they are to have a conversation with someone that is not of their opinion.

In the end, how people take what you say, or how sensitive they are, shouldnt matter..the only think that matters is your believes hopes and the rest..equally you haev to learn to listen and accept divergences of opinions coming from others.

The rest is totally irrilevant. Now if you lied, this is another story.

To be fair, I dont see what your experience in this game has anything to do with your opinion..weather you are end game or not you still are entitled to your thoughts and believes and still are entitled to say you like or dont like this game, of course your opinion is a bit biaised since you didnt experience it in full or a bit more ahead but still remains an opinion that should be respected.

Ohh yeah I forgot, you are not either responsible on how others take what you say is solely on them.

Just me though

[Charlayy]

It's 2016 Gamers now a days dont care to take a lot of time to do something. No way in hell will this community grind out coffer keys to get their AF gear way to time consuming. And they won't like having to do those stupid quests when you hit lvl 50 every 5 levels so you can go past the cap or you don't level at all. I don't miss the voke bots whatsoever camping NM's. But I do miss the danger and leveling in the open world.

[Charlayy]

FFXIV isn't as great as you make it out to be do you know how many time i had to wait 1 hour in DF? the answer is a lot of times. And I'm on the Odin server.

The amount of time lost sitting round in PF is just time wastingly painful.

It never took me 1 hour to make a party in FFXI maybe i was lucky, compered to you.

Rdm and bards seemed to be rare. Fighting beetles, crabs or crawlers without dispel sucked. Had very long wait times due to neither job being available

[Kaze3434]

I dont expect you to because it shows that what you said about what you have done in this game isnt true(for the chr you have shown) but it would be a good idea to at least attempt to try to say and prove what i have said isnt true. Like i said before, having the opinion that there are problems with the game is fine, as i and many others i talk to do agree there are problems with the game. What you did, however, many think is wrong because from what they see, and can verify, you have done 0 things that can be considered hard in this game in this current patch. Hell, from what can be glanced from your profile, you have done normal gordias and void ark. thats it. Going thru dates, the times that you beat certain fights that were "hard" at the time of release is when you had to have outgeared them by a bit, like your clear for T5; 11th of july, when everyone would have had 110 gear. you didnt clear all of gordias until 7 months after it had been out. there is a gap in achievements, so you most likely took a break here, but this is just normal gordias, not savage, as you dont have anything to show from it, gear or otherwise.

regardless of the things i brought up, saying what you said without experiencing it yourself is an ill-informed stand point.

I also dont expect you to reply to this comment, as you ignored the first one i made showing your possible lies you had said.

[Nuna]

What I'm talking about for instance is the zodiak weapons. Good job, you spent MONTHS of hard work, MONTHS of grinding, and time spent, and now we just released a new expansion where EVERYONE can get what you have in 1 day with no effort.. Kinda makes all that time spent acquiring it useless and a massive waste of time doesn't it?

How? /10char

[Neri]

And I still don't see the OP answer the question about the savage raiding which has been brought up quite a few times in this same thread. They do have a point though. You claimed that savage is easy, yet your profile like the other have stated, showed that you haven't even completed it yet? Did you just like ignore them?

[Reinth]

Turns out you're getting bashed here anyways, not just in the game..

Coincidence?

[Masekase_Hurricane]

FFXIV isn't as great as you make it out to be do you know how many time i had to wait 1 hour in DF? the answer is a lot of times. And I'm on the Odin server.

The amount of time lost sitting round in PF is just time wastingly painful.

It never took me 1 hour to make a party in FFXI maybe i was lucky, compered to you.

Not sure where you got that I called FFXIV great from? FFXIV has plenty of problems but to me they are far less than the various probs in 11.

I have never waited an hour for any dungeon on 14 on dps,healer or tank. The only time I ever came close to an hour was when I attempted to wait for PvP.

As for not taking long to make a party in 11, I am guessing you was most likely on one of the bandwagon jobs then? I also don't believe that you never waited an hour for any event, exp or fight on 11 I can guarantee along the line one of those you did.

I was also on Odin server and actually it was one of the worst for JP only partys being shouted all the time and in sea coms for quite a while. One of the main reasons I moved back to Asura.