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  1. #4991
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    Suirieko Mizukoshi
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    Nothing like that one Expert run where every chests drops nothing but Prophet stuff, and this WHM needs every single bloody pieces of it despite the said WHM has every gears at 230+.

    That's cool, it's not like I wanted to level up my leatherworker or GSM desynth to 220 anyway.
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    Suirieko Mizukoshi of Excalibur Lamia


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    Diantha Sunstone
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suirieko View Post
    Nothing like that one Expert run where every chests drops nothing but Prophet stuff, and this WHM needs every single bloody pieces of it despite the said WHM has every gears at 230+.

    That's cool, it's not like I wanted to level up my leatherworker or GSM desynth to 220 anyway.
    Those GC seals, man. If they were working on Anima, the seals have real value for the mats you can buy from your GC now.

    Or, maybe they were desynth'ing, too. :P
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  3. #4993
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    Suirieko Mizukoshi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ametrine View Post
    Those GC seals, man. If they were working on Anima, the seals have real value for the mats you can buy from your GC now.

    Or, maybe they were desynth'ing, too. :P
    Tbh it's still dumb to need when you have an ilevel much higher than the drop. you obviously don't "need" it.

    I'm just venting, never liked the fact that people could need shit when their ilevel is way higher than the drop they're needing.
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    Suirieko Mizukoshi of Excalibur Lamia


  4. #4994
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    Nuna's Avatar
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    Nuna Chu
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    Goblin
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Suirieko View Post
    Tbh it's still dumb to need when you have an ilevel much higher than the drop. you obviously don't "need" it.

    I'm just venting, never liked the fact that people could need shit when their ilevel is way higher than the drop they're needing.
    They might need it for glamour though.
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  5. #4995
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    Suirieko Mizukoshi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuna View Post
    They might need it for glamour though.
    Nothing wrong with asking. I've asked for for the drop for glamour everytime I've seen it. 90% of the time, people just pass it and they're cool about it. I've seen many others do the same thing.
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    Suirieko Mizukoshi of Excalibur Lamia


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    Ireine Tourcenet
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    Fuck RNG and fuck the Gordias/Midas loot rules.
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  7. #4997
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    Eyrlumi Kani
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by FinaSel View Post
    He only used flash once at the beginning of each fight. And he didn't use Rage of Halone. (Never saw a 3-slash attack).

    When the enmity bar was getting close to his, I would switch to another mob to avoid pulling aggro, but it was really tough.
    Now that I know what Rage of Halone is, I'm in a better position to offer advice. Thank you!
    I will just say, RoH is actually a 5-fold attack (4 quick slashes followed by one really big and obvious downward slash that has a really noticeable effect). The first two in the combo (Fast Blade and Savage Blade) are a quick back-and-forth diagonal slash, and a single spinning slash, respectively. Riot Blade (MP restore) is a stab.
    Basically, PLD enmity combo is: Fast Blade (2x quick slashes) >> Savage Blade (spinning slash) >> Rage of Halone (5-fold attack with a really noticeable final hit).
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  8. #4998
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    Masekase Hurricane
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    Louisoix
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Suirieko View Post
    Tbh it's still dumb to need when you have an ilevel much higher than the drop. you obviously don't "need" it.

    I'm just venting, never liked the fact that people could need shit when their ilevel is way higher than the drop they're needing.
    As long as you actually need it for whatever reason does it matter be it for glamour(which is what all gear is regardless of level), desynth or seal turn in. If someone actually opens up their mouth and says I need X item then I will pass otherwise I will greed or need items. Also the amount of people that actually greed or need ex items is low, plenty of times I don't bother doing either and still get the items.
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  9. #4999
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masekase_Hurricane View Post
    As long as you actually need it for whatever reason does it matter be it for glamour(which is what all gear is regardless of level), desynth or seal turn in. If someone actually opens up their mouth and says I need X item then I will pass otherwise I will greed or need items. Also the amount of people that actually greed or need ex items is low, plenty of times I don't bother doing either and still get the items.
    I personally operate under the principle of, if you only need it because you plan to sell it or destroy it (desynth), then that's greed because you don't actually need the item itself, just what an NPC will pay for it or what you could get from destroying it, and you should roll greed accordingly. I also take a similar view on glamour, because you don't need the item itself, just its appearance... however I am generally alright if they roll need on a glamour item provided there's no-one in the party who may actually need it for a class they are leveling.
    Rolling need is only alright in my books if the item in question is a direct upgrade to what you already have, and as such need the piece of gear for what it is; a better piece of gear. Rolling need just because you want to sell or destroy an item is not fair on anyone else who may actually legitimately need it.
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  10. #5000
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    Mim Silmaril
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    Phoenix
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lmcgyver View Post
    I personally operate under the principle of, if you only need it because you plan to sell it or destroy it (desynth), then that's greed because you don't actually need the item itself, just what an NPC will pay for it or what you could get from destroying it, and you should roll greed accordingly. I also take a similar view on glamour, because you don't need the item itself, just its appearance... however I am generally alright if they roll need on a glamour item provided there's no-one in the party who may actually need it for a class they are leveling.
    Rolling need is only alright in my books if the item in question is a direct upgrade to what you already have, and as such need the piece of gear for what it is; a better piece of gear. Rolling need just because you want to sell or destroy an item is not fair on anyone else who may actually legitimately need it.

    While leveling you don't need any dungeon drops.. just buy every few levels the normal lvling gear pieces you're missing for 10-12k gil the piece, that's all you need.
    Weaver/Leatherworker/Armorer above the level of the current battle class? He can craft gear, if he needs it.

    Why should I pass on an priceless glamour (since I can't get easily anything comparable) I'm maybe looking for since 10 runs, just so the levelling person can safe a few thousand gil or 10 minutes crafting... he'll be on the next dungeon after 2-3 runs, again needing new stuff and throwing away the old one, while I might have to do another 10 to just see the drop a second time?
    And then, maybe pass it again to someone who can't be bothered to upgrade his gear once after hitting 50, except getting some dungeon gear. No thanks.
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    Last edited by Neophyte; 08-30-2016 at 08:09 PM.

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