Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Masquerade]

Just now.

I'm a level 50 Paladin.


Still new to the game still. Been playing for under a month. So even tho I am a decent enough tank, I am still a little self-conscious about my skills in it. So before I sign up for any of the 40+ stuff in the main story missions that I am at, I like to first run a couple short lower level groups. Just for some warm up practice before going into a zone that I have never been in before.

I sign up for Halatali. Easy, short. be out of there in 15 minutes or less.

Group starts and the healer had not cast Protect yet, so I do so. (the reason I mention this will come later)
After killing that first small group at the start, I run down the ramp and grab the next group of 3. While tanking, I keep my eye over to the right to watch for the flame bomb with wanderlust to roam his way over. And while I am watching, I see the Lancer DPS run over and body pulls the group of 3 on the other side of the room, along with the 2 roaming flame bombs. I quickly grab everything no problem. I laugh to myself a little thinking he did not mean to do that. I thought maybe he was trying to grab the fire bomb. Maybe he thought he could solo it in case it blew up, it would do so away from the group and not in the middle of the mob fight. So he just got a little too close and grabbed more then he meant to.

After we kill this large group, I lead the way through the big door into the next room. I wait for one of the bombs to get close and pull it back. I used up a lot of my power on that big group, so I plan to use Riot Blade a few times on this thing to get some MP back before pulling the next group.........Lancer runs and pulls them over...alright, he is doing this on purpose.

After I'm sure I got aggro on everything, I quickly say in chat "stop"
Thinking that one word of mine, should pretty much be the end of the conversation. --I'm tanking, I just let it be known that that's not the way I want to run this. Done.-- I let it go. I'm not even annoyed with him. ..and then he says "then dont cast protect"



Did Protect get revamped and it now means that if that buff is on the group is untouchable? Does it give me an endless amount of MP so I don't drain it all to make sure I'm holding aggro on ten mobs at a time?

I wait tell we finish that fight. Say "you can tank...." and leave the group.

I don't no need anything from finishing that zone. So I'm not gaining anything in there from finishing it, and now I don't want to help him gain anything either.

30 minute ban for abandoning groups ..so figured Id post about it while waiting lol

[Fluestergras]

Currently doing the "Toughening Up" quest on warrior - which is kinda thrilling because I never tanked most of the level 50 dungeons in this quest before And, you know, tanking kinda scares me. In leveling dungeons it's fun, but in level 50 and level 60 dungeons, people expect huge pulls for speedruns, and I'm always afraid of not being able to handle these.

But now I picked up this quest - not only because Ukonvasara looks awesome as shit and has better stats than the Parashu I'm currently wielding, I also wanted to git gud and get rid of my fear of speedruns and just try them.

Snowcloak: I pull the first group, want to Flash it and run to the next one - but a while before, I removed Flash in favour of Chakra to solo some content, so Flash is inavailable O.O We kill the pulled group, I explain the situation, we laugh about it, I crossclass Flash again and we move on. Positioning is freaking annoying at the second boss, but I handle it easily enough. Throughout the dungeon, the big pulls work, I keep aggro, AST keeps me alive, BLMs melt everything fast.

Sastasha: After Snowcloak went so well, I'm more confident regarding big pulls - unfortunately I have a bard in this party who goes full ham on the first group while I run to the second one, and eventually loose aggro to him. I get it back fast and decide to be more cautious about this bard ^^ After the second boss and the two trash mobs after it, I wanna pull two groups and accidentally pull everything else too - chaos occurs, but we make it thanks to like every CD I have and WHM's Benediction \o/

Qarn: I start with pulling everything and for a short moment, I loose aggro on one mob but get it back fast - that's pretty much how the rest of the dungeon goes too, except two wipes at the cactuar boss because DPS kill every add except the one that protects the boss.

I'm yet to do the remaining dungeons, and what I write here is nothing spectacular, but these three dungeons gave me much more confidence in my tanking skills and made me way more relaxed about speedruns, and I kinda felt like sharing it :3

[raela]

Got on late last night and wanted to see how many roulettes I could do before falling asleep. The 60 went well, but the trial..

Got Titan HM. I was hit by the first landslide, which I found odd, but thought that I maybe paused to finish a cast for too long. I then tried to cleanse a debuff off someone.. didn't go, so well, maybe I miss targeted.. Then the party got a bit damaged, so I tried to drop cleric stance.. and tried.. and tried.. 5 press+pauses later, still had cleric.. But then got selected for gaol, so, remaining in cleric it was. I never actually saw the gaol graphic on my character, then died to an aoe soon after I was freed.. accepted the res right away, but the res buff never actually went away.

..3 minutes later, my connection stops acting up, I see a "can't perform that action right now" message, and the other healer resses me again. Damn lag making me look like a trainwreck. .___. We didn't wipe at least, but I decided not to try my luck with any other roulettes..

[SilkaN]

Leveling roulette, Hatalali.

Was leveling Archer, my party had a Ninja, Conjurer and Marauder.
Tank was a sprout who knew nothing about tanking and / or had severe difficulties doing their job. Didn't respond most of the time when we were trying to give them tips because they were on PS4 without keyboard. Took us almost 45 minutes to clear the dungeon and I felt sorry for our healer who always died first. Gave him my recommendation and vowed to never do leveling roulette on a Sunday afternoon again, to avoid the children and casual new players.

Or maybe I shouldn't play the game at all when the temperatures outside are killing me. Living directly under the roof doesn't help my patience, especially not during the hot summer months.

[RhaegarFFXIFenrir]

After we kill this large group, I lead the way through the big door into the next room. I wait for one of the bombs to get close and pull it back. I used up a lot of my power on that big group, so I plan to use Riot Blade a few times on this thing to get some MP back before pulling the next group.........Lancer runs and pulls them over...alright, he is doing this on purpose.

After I'm sure I got aggro on everything, I quickly say in chat "stop"
Thinking that one word of mine, should pretty much be the end of the conversation. --I'm tanking, I just let it be known that that's not the way I want to run this. Done.-- I let it go. I'm not even annoyed with him. ..and then he says "then dont cast protect"

Let him die. That's the most surefire way to get your point across to people doing this. If the dps wants to grab a huge group of mobs you had no intention of grabbing at that moment a death or two should hopefully cure him of that itch. That being said, if the healer doesn't get the memo and then cures the dps, thus grabbing all those mobs you SHOULD take care of that player.

Also, there's no point to pulling large groups in low level dungeons: most dps don't have useful AOE abilities at that point, meaning that a large group is just making the tank and healer work harder for no real benefit. If anything dps is going to drop because the healer can't jump into cleric stance and help out.

I wait tell we finish that fight. Say "you can tank...." and leave the group.

I don't no need anything from finishing that zone. So I'm not gaining anything in there from finishing it, and now I don't want to help him gain anything either.

Probably not the best way to handle things. It makes you look like the jerk here. As I said above, let him die. It usually solves this problem. If it doesn't, kick the player. Those low level dungeons are where people learn how to play their jobs. It's unrealistic to expect expert tanking and healing in a level 20 dungeon, which is what that lancer was realistically expecting of your party.

[WolfKid]

A few days ago I did Expert roulette, I ran as an AST in Sohr Khai. So far so good, but the first boss was kinda messy. Tank had to adjust his spot, understandable. The 2 BLMs standing near the tank, not moving with Vuln+2, not understandable. The BLMs die to cleave, and I'm raising while I'm face palming. Course of the run, apparently the tank (sounds like he had a parser on) was a bit upset with one of the BLM's DPS. (He had really high gear though) A bit of an argument, moved on. Later the tank brought it up again, but this time he questions if the BLM did the lvl 50+ quests. I ask in seriousness if it's that bad as he says it is. He then says I was beating him in almost all the pulls. Even the other BLM agreed with the tank. Later I started paying attention the BLM in question. Turns out they were right, I was apparently beating him in DPS AND enmity.

Like........ How?

And AST, with a perma-reduced enmity buff, was beating a BLM in DPS and hate. You'd have to be really lazy or doing something awfully wrong for that to even happen.

[AnaviAnael]

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Like........ How?

And AST, with a perma-reduced enmity buff, was beating a BLM in DPS and hate. You'd have to be really lazy or doing something awfully wrong for that to even happen.

This happens more often than people care to admit. Some BLMs don't care to learn their 60 rotation, so they use the 50 one because it's easier. I even partied with one who said he only played BLM when he didn't want to have to think and that's why he wasn't doing his 50+ quests.

[Amirya]

Come on now. Whatever other issues there may be, don't criticize the killing of adds because you know there are times that the adds try to eat the healers when they get ignored. ;-)

Seriously though, killing adds shouldn't be a bad thing unless there's a specific need to keep them alive. It's a good thing to handle adds because I see more disasters when adds get ingored than when they get killed.

No, you're right. You are absolutely right. I was just so frustrated with the SMN not doing anything, then to see the boss isn't dying because of the adds instead... I mean, considering the gear the MNK was wearing, we'd probably have shaved a whole 1.3 minutes off the fight anyway.

[Masquerade]

Probably not the best way to handle things. It makes you look like the jerk here. As I said above, let him die. It usually solves this problem. If it doesn't, kick the player. Those low level dungeons are where people learn how to play their jobs. It's unrealistic to expect expert tanking and healing in a level 20 dungeon, which is what that lancer was realistically expecting of your party.

My only regret is not recasting Protect again before I left. lol It would not have done anything else, I just think it would have been funny for him to see the shield go around him again right before I took off.
"you can tank...."
cast Protect.
Gone.


I'm new here, but I played EverQuest 2 for a few years. Also as a Paladin. The only time I ever did big pulls in a group/raid is when the healer specifically told me it was okay.
And in that group, even tho the healer was more then keeping up well, (I kept at an eye on her MP, and she was good. Had plenty to spare.) But the dps was slow burning. With the amount of time it took to kill that large group, would have been the same had we gotten them one group at a time.

It was kinda jerky of me to take off like that. (I did not know kicking people was an option) But explaining the above ^ or just letting him die, and then having to answer him when he asked why I did not use Flash....it just would have added 10 minutes onto that low level 15 minute dungeon.

So at the cost of me look negative...maybe he will be less likely to pull that kinda thing in another group. Because the next tank might leave as well.

[Fluestergras]

Weeping City. My party's tank derps at Ozma, running away from it at the start of the cube phase and thus getting a stack of vulnerability up. At the same time he gets lasered while he is also taking orbs - and the healers don't even try to heal him, so he obviously dies. This leads to a couple other events which eventually wipe our party, but the other two manage to kill Ozma. Tank complains about not getting healed, the AST starts insulting him about how many thing he's doing wrong and doesn't stop before the battle with Calofisteri is over. So, during the fight the AST gets hit by practically everything because you can't dodge while typing, he dies four times, the WHM more or less soloheals our party.
Some people ;_;