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  1. #71
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    Renius's Avatar
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    Atticus Max
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    Coeurl
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    Archer Lv 70
    I don't mind paying for something I like if it is up to me. They are optional items so to each his/her own choice.
    I would however like to see the option to have items dyed rather than buying it and then looking just like every other person that bought it.
    They could at least make it an option like buy the undyeable version or pay a couple of bucks more to get the dyable version, or pay some gil to an NPC that only sells the "ability" to dye shop purchased items.
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  2. #72
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    Alexander_Dragonfang's Avatar
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    Alexander Dragonfang
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    Zalera
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    Lancer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    It still isn't. This is cosplay glamour, not new designs. When people have said what you've quoted, they mean the latter.

    Nonetheless, would you call someone who, say, goes out partying and blows $100 one weekend an idiot? Why? Because they choose to freely spend their money on what they deem enjoyable? You may dislike something, but that doesn't inherently make it idiotic to partake in.
    Oh, it is, you just dont want to accept it or simply can`t accept it, and your example isn`t good because a party might have many reasons, just going out because you are bored and want to blow money away is a very idiotic reason to party and in that case your example just proves my point, while if the party has a good reason to be, like an important celebration or conmemoration, then the example serves your point, but since you didn`t specify, the example itself is terrible and doesn`t relate well to the case of this game cash shop.

    The cash shop is objectively bad. Money from it doesn`t even go to the development or the salary of the FFXIV developer team. It doesn`t support the game or the people working behind it in anyway. It only takes stuff from the game and puts it behind a paywall. For example, a mount that should have been the reward from the Odin Trial, to squeeze extra money to meet corporative numbers that doesnt even influence the game as a whole, what you pay to this cash shop is basically paying someone else vacations or luxury commodities, and belive me, isn`t yoshida or soken or anyone involed with the development of FFXIV

    And that is the issue. When first mentioned the cash shop, many of us called out the dangers of it and a few white knights came here saying yoshida will never do any wrong and that SE is ever-good, divine and holy.

    At first only glamour items from events were going to be part of the cash shop ---> Now we have quite a few exclusive items, even event rewards that were supposed to be special and unique for the community that participated can be bought now.
    Then the mounts will be just one ---> Now we have several cash shop exclusive mounts (diferent color scheme).
    Then content itself was put behind the cash shop ---> Eternal Bonding is basically a cash shop service.
    The inventory issues of this game were solved via cash shop ---> Now we will never have a proper inventory system since solving its current issues would be to cut this income source for the company.

    And right now it is happening a leveling potion and several diferent class/job skill-quest skip potions, which are being considered to come our way.

    At every wrong turn this whole cash shop has taken since it was announced, people like you have been there to support SE and be wrong. Once more you are here. In a few years we will have raiding food, rare crafting materials and maybe even tomestone packages and again, you will be here to support SE and be wrong.

    Cause its hurting the game, hurting everyone experience and probably, something that the dev team will never say because they are in a business, hurting their own vision of how they wanted the game to be and play, cause probably all these decisions come just from above them.
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  3. #73
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    Esp's Avatar
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    Espikes Darkwind
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    Behemoth
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    While the hairstyle isn't my favorite, I do love the outfit. Looks great on my Au Ra alt. Problem is...can't figure out what class to glam the damn thing with on my main xD

    If only jobs could have two different glam setups... ><
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  4. #74
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    Mwynn's Avatar
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    Dio'orsa Pulse
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    Odin
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander_Dragonfang View Post
    Blubb
    The Items in there do not affect the Gameplay at all. I have played tons of Free2Play Games and the Mog Station is in no Way affecting the Balance Ingame.

    *We have no Hourly based Buffs to purchase in the Mog Station
    *There is no End-Content Gear to purchase in the Mog Station
    *There are no Items to purchase on the Mag Station that will give you an Advantage over Players who would not buy such Items

    In the last F2P MMORPG I played, you had to slay millions of Monsters and at that Point, nobody did it with their Hands, rather using Third Party Tools. Each Monster would give you around 2.000 EXP
    (At Lv.119 you need 21.000.000.000 EXP just to get to 120)

    You could buy a Premium worth 30€ to get double EXP *Facepalm*... and yet, half of Server bought that...

    The Company added tons of buffed Packages, Items, Potions, Arrows and Premium Packages into their Item Mall. Heck, even a Grappet or a Attack Pet did cost tons of Money.
    At all, they restricted the Login, that means once their Server is full, those who do not own a Premium Plus, were not able to log in even after thousand attempts.
    For that, there even was a Third Party Relog Tool that relaunched the Game just to try to keep connecting to the Server.

    Premium does cost 30€ (Runs out in 28 Days, gives 10% Buff to all Stats, Luck Increase, Teleport Tickets, Ressurection Scrolls, Global Chat Items)
    Avatar costs 15€ (Glamour)
    Devil/Angel Spirit is a Item that gives you 10-15% DMG Inc, which you can even enhance by buying Items from the Item Mall and increase the stats of that Spirit up to 25-30% DMG / DEF Inc.

    At all, if you want to be a good Player that doesn't want to die by a simple one hit, you need to invest over 150-200€ in the Item Mall and that Monthly.

    So Please, next time, don't say it is hurting the Game, it is not, as all Items are either Decorative, give you Mounts or change your Character. None of them affect the Gameplay at all or you have no Advantage over Non-Paying Players.

    Even the Extra Retainer isn't affecting the Gameplay on other Players. It affects only you and you seriously need to manage your Inventory better if you seem to have a Inventory that is full 100% the entire Time.
    A Normal Player is sitting at 20-30 out of 100 Slots and if your Inventory is full of Gear Pieces and such, I think People who have that Problem need to reconsider that they honestly should get rid of these Items that basically sit on their Retainer for half an Year, if not even longer...

    People may know there is a Illness called "Compulsive hoarding" in Real Life, and that can even apply in Games.


    Inbefore my Fat Moogle Mount crashes down unto Brute Justice and gives me a A8S Clear
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    Last edited by Mwynn; 08-26-2016 at 06:04 AM.
    #GetSelliBack2016

  5. #75
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    Nuna Chu
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    Goblin
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    Dark Knight Lv 80

    Quote Originally Posted by Chalbee View Post
    THE CASH SHOP POISONED OUR WATER SUPPLY, BURNED OUR CROPS, AND DELIVERED A PLAGUE UNTO OUR HOUSES!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Virgil View Post
    Whenever I read this forum I hate myself more often than not when I'm finished. I don't know why I do this to myself.
    Quote Originally Posted by SenorPatty View Post
    You know that thing about how every subbed person has the right to post what they want in the OF?
    I'm starting to question that right.

  6. #76
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    Malfoy Fleurentine
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Is it storable in the armoire? I won't consider buying it if not. I'm nearly at my limit as far as how many glamour pieces I can keep on my retainers right now with crafting mats taking up a lot of space, and I refuse to buy more retainers just to store it.
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    because diamonds are forever, as is dust.
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  7. #77
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    Moomba33's Avatar
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    Eva Gamirdren
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    Ultros
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    Archer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander_Dragonfang View Post
    Then content itself was put behind the cash shop ---> Eternal Bonding is basically a cash shop service.
    While it's true you have to go through the cash shop for Eternal Bonds it isn't a paid service. The basic ceremony is free and the paid ones just add more glamour (extra outfit, mount, more colour options for the ceremony, ect).

    The only cash shop thing I personally find questionable is that fact that the rented retainers can go on Ventures and list items on the market.
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  8. #78
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    Knahli's Avatar
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    K'nahli Yohko
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    Balmung
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    Bard Lv 89
    Make no mistake, if they made the sets dyeable then they'd get a LOT more money out of this without a doubt. I am certain that they know as much, but they choose not to anyways. The reason being, I am sure, that those sets are iconic to the characters and are intended for cosplay purposes and nothing more. Allowing them to be dyeable would only allow players to make the sets more their "own" and that goes against their wishes to let the NPCs stand apart I believe, because no matter how great any one person thinks the set looks on their character, at the end of the day, everyone is just going to see them as someone dressing up as Y'shtola and co.

    Personally, I'm happy for the fact it was on the Mogstation. Perhaps it's selfish but I'd rather if people who weren't serious enough about the items did not get their hands on it as a freebie because I know that - on my server at least - it's already looking a bit ridiculous with all of the clones as it is, any more would just be absolutely crazy. Albeit that's me speaking as someone who is a big Y'shtola fan who isn't mad about seeing clones of her to begin with.... and also a person who has wanted a bobble-less version of the original hairstyle since the beta days, ahah.
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  9. #79
    Player Jynx's Avatar
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    Jynx Masamune
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    Diabolos
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    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    Retainers are the only ones who provide a clear ingame advantage due to their ability to make gil from thin air.

    I'm not a fan of cosmetics being sold on the shop. I feel it would do them better to have it as a ingame item as content instead of being sliced off for sale.

    Every new NPC is pretty much a fashion model now in my eyes. It's a shame they feel the need to clip content from the game this way.
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  10. #80
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    TiaHariberux3's Avatar
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    Empty Inside
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    Lich
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by AstralKaos View Post
    I am not playing the "I pay sub fee so I deserve stuff" card though... I'm also not asking for event items in the shop... so, go and quote someone who is saying that please.
    Well never said I meant you dunno how you came to this conclusion? Since you agreed to the other person (which basically such a person) and made a bad idea to put a better version ingame I quoted you to point out that most of the players always complain and there is nothing wrong with items being in the CS.
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