Yoshida' stance on PL and why it is less than ideal.

[Vahzl]

You don't have the option to skip the 2-3 days of PL. What do you get out of it exactly? Does it take skill? Does it take dedication? Provide any satisfaction? Wouldn't it be more helpful for your friends if they didn't have to go through that annoying process? The most important option is missing.

Grind parties take skill?

Tell me, how many times have you gone "HELL YEAH THAT WAS THE MOST FUN 3 HOURS OF MY LIFE GRINDING FROM 23-23 and a half!" - I know I can't stand the grind, I do it because I like the rest of the game, that's all.

[Betelgeuzah]

Grind parties take skill?

It took some dedication before.

It's understandable that dedication is not the favorite word for the instant gratification society of today.

But now it requires nothing. So you answer me: What do you get out of those 2-3 days that is why you couldn't skip altogether?

[Vahzl]

It took some dedication before.

It's understandable that dedication is not the favorite word for the instant gratification society of today.

But now it requires nothing. So you answer me: What do you get out of those 2-3 days that is why you couldn't skip altogether?

Instant gratification? Self righteous much?

[Betelgeuzah]

Instant gratification? Self righteous much?

Can you provide me with an answer or will you just keep dodging the question?

I told you what brings me the feeling of accomplishment- completing an activity that requires dedication, which is something you seem to hate. It seems you on the other hand get something special from having to PL people for 2 days though, so let's put the matter to the rest if you can provide us with an answer.

[Vahzl]

Can you provide me with an answer or will you just keep dodging the question?

I told you what brings me the feeling of accomplishment- completing an activity that requires dedication, which is something you seem to hate. It seems you on the other hand get something special from having to PL people for 2 days though, so let's put the matter to the rest if you can provide us with an answer.

You are starting to get on my nerves now with your self righteous holier than thou attitude.

Just because you sit there clicking 123 for 3 hours doesn't give your experience any higher acclaim than mine. I have already done the grind on multiple classes on my main character, as have my friends, and to be honest with you, they don't have a race change option so instead of this I remade as a Lalafell and just want to get back to where I left off on my Elezen. For that, I power level.

New players want to come play with the big boys in endgame, yup, power level is fine too.

People want to boost up alts, or level boring subs they have no intention of playing, no issue with power levelling here.

Players want to power level their mains, go for it. It takes less than a few monsters killed to learn your class, and from then on you adapt to new situations.

Your mindless droning about how you are better than the rest because you are grinding is boring, and comes across as very arrogant.

[Vahzl]

also see above, as the prediction for the threads future is already on repeat number 2.

[Travesty]

Grind parties take skill?

Tell me, how many times have you gone "HELL YEAH THAT WAS THE MOST FUN 3 HOURS OF MY LIFE GRINDING FROM 23-23 and a half!" - I know I can't stand the grind, I do it because I like the rest of the game, that's all.

Actually, grind parties do take skill, and even moreso now with the introduction of the enemy linking system. But, with this patch, in the same breath that they made grind parties require more skill, they also made that fact irrelevant with powerleveling.

And the most fun I've ever had in gaming were some of my parties in FFXI. So grinding certainly can be fun. MMO's are social games. 90% of the fun comes from the people you play with.

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Actually, grind parties do take skill, and even moreso now with the introduction of the enemy linking system. But, with this patch, in the same breath that they made grind parties require more skill, they also made that fact irrelevant with powerleveling.

And the most fun I've ever had in gaming were some of my parties in FFXI. So grinding certainly can be fun. MMO's are social games. 90% of the fun comes from the people you play with.

If grind parties are so much fun, then why isn't everyone doing it 24/7? You think the ppl who aren't don't know what they are missing? You may love it, but obviously alot of ppl don't. People are out there soloing, powerleveling, picking their noses. Alot of ppl just can't stand it.

Some ppl find socializing through just chat. What does it matter if their friends avatar is standing next to them.

While it may take skill for the first few fights it becomes repetitive after that untill you move on to a new area where the first few fights is skill, then repetition all over again. Some ppl just don't like working on others timetables.