Yoshida' stance on PL and why it is less than ideal.

[Alexis_Arteme]

I realize what Yoshida said about friends gathering at 50 rather than 10 or 20 for group fun. He is under the impression that we, the Superfans, whom are all at 50 will be going out and telling our friends how interesting the new XIV is. So he wants those said friends to get to our level quickly. It's the dynamic they created with this "extended beta", and since they won't wipe the servers and start over we have to go with it. My question is, where the hell are the crafting and gathering "powerleveling?" Took me two hours of mindlessly hitting "enter" to go from 16 to 17 in crafting yesterday.

No wonder people bot. Really. I feel like a monkey.

[Betelgeuzah]

Took me two hours of mindlessly hitting "enter" to go from 16 to 17 in crafting yesterday.

That only applies to those with a ton of money. You'll only screw yourself by doing that as a newb.

[Vahzl]

You didn't see most people exping on mamool ja and puks at the start of ToAU either. It takes a while for the playerbase to catch up. Doesn't mean it's not gonna happen.



In XIV, a dedicated PL can afk their way to cap in 2 days. It's not just limited to a very specific way of PL'ing either. The low level group still did most of the work in XI. They were not by any means useless or unnecessary. Only the healer was, at worst. The exp was only as fast as the killspeed of the group, not the PL.

XI - Cap is 90 something now - Takes 2-3 days to PL to 50 in XI
XIV - Cap is 50 - Takes 2-3 days to PL to 50 in XIV

Seems balanced enough for me to enjoy it.

[Betelgeuzah]

XI - Cap is 90 something now - Takes 2-3 days to PL to 50 in XI
XIV - Cap is 50 - Takes 2-3 days to PL to 50 in XIV

Seems balanced enough for me to enjoy it.

You enjoy being force-fed 2-3 days of PL for no reason at all? Well, I won't judge.

[Ilethius]

I agree with the OP on PL being too much right now but I think he may be reading a bit too much in to what Yoshida may or may not be implying. I dont think he has forsaken anything <50, if he has why add a new lvl 15 dungeon if that dungeon is not to be used. Every patch sees another balancing act as new content is added, the rate they are adding things they are bound to get the numbers wrong intentionally or not. We are technically still in beta, yes its an over used excuse but it is never the less true and so this balancing act will continue for a lot longer. There still trying to find the balance between grind and PL, there not going to please everyone while they plow forward and in the end regardless of how much shouting us players do they will eventually have to choose hopefully by that point they will have tweaked it enough to get an acceptable level to the majority of the playerbase...

[Vahzl]

You enjoy being force-fed 2-3 days of PL for no reason at all? Well, I won't judge.

Force-fed? I am sorry at which point am I in any way being forced to do anything? I don't pay for the game, I have many options available to me, and I like to help my friends out.

Your post was very out of place, and totally misdirected.

[Betelgeuzah]

Force-fed? I am sorry at which point am I in any way being forced to do anything? I don't pay for the game, I have many options available to me, and I like to help my friends out.

You don't have the option to skip the 2-3 days of PL. What do you get out of it exactly? Does it take skill? Does it take dedication? Provide any satisfaction? Wouldn't it be more helpful for your friends if they didn't have to go through that annoying process? The most important option is missing.

[Sephrick]

That only applies to those with a ton of money. You'll only screw yourself by doing that as a newb.

Actually, with the new leve system it is free and can be spammed at will. I took carpenter from 16 to 19 yesterday off leves alone.

[Betelgeuzah]

Actually, with the new leve system it is free and can be spammed at will. I took carpenter from 16 to 19 yesterday off leves alone.

You'll always make progress like that, its gonna be awfully slow though.

[Vahzl]

You don't have the option to skip the 2-3 days of PL. What do you get out of it exactly? Does it take skill? Does it take dedication? Provide any satisfaction? Wouldn't it be more helpful for your friends if they didn't have to go through that annoying process? The most important option is missing.

Grind parties take skill?

Tell me, how many times have you gone "HELL YEAH THAT WAS THE MOST FUN 3 HOURS OF MY LIFE GRINDING FROM 23-23 and a half!" - I know I can't stand the grind, I do it because I like the rest of the game, that's all.