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    Critical-Limit's Avatar
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    Xizzy Azenith
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlyx View Post
    once u are 60 there is no reason to kill anything ....so whats going to change in 50-200? because we are going to sneak everyhting after hitting 60
    There's ways to force you to kill mobs.

    1.) chests can drop from trash.
    2.) you can have 2-3 mobs transfer to new rooms, then wait a bit, then repeat. This would make you want to kill them so they don't sneak up on you.
    3.) new objective/mechanics could have you doing so.

    But yah, ANYTHING you can skip, you probably will want to lol
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    Shurrikhan's Avatar
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    Tani Shirai
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    Quote Originally Posted by Critical-Limit View Post
    There's ways to force you to kill mobs.

    1.) chests can drop from trash.
    2.) you can have 2-3 mobs transfer to new rooms, then wait a bit, then repeat. This would make you want to kill them so they don't sneak up on you.
    3.) new objective/mechanics could have you doing so.

    But yah, ANYTHING you can skip, you probably will want to lol
    I've on a few occasions already had my only (non-exploding/failing) silver chests after hitting 60 come from trash drops. Not all were with a Fortune Pomander up either. It's gotten to the point that if I'm in a party that can mob down mobs, we don't sneak. We just mow as we walk. We're ride-em mob mowers. And it feels like getting to 30/30 is faster for it. (I've had 5 1-50 clears where my only gains were from the final boss. You'd think by 28/29 I'd be one of those guys wanting to skip everything and just get to the end, but my luck's been better when we at least allow ourselves kills as convenient rather than actively trying to avoid conflict, and usually full clearing when Fortune's up, so until 29/29 I see no reason to stealth "rush" and even then I'm not about to try to to force others along.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    Easy fix - mobs are unaffected by sneak on 50-200, not every enemy is affected by sneak
    Also pretty sure certain mobs are detectors already. Some could spot me through Hide at normal visible detection range.
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    Khuja'to Binbotaj
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    also pretty sure certain mobs are detectors already. Some could spot me through Hide at normal visible detection range.
    It is already the case, there are at least 3 enemy types on the later floors that detect sneak, which I like. It means that as a Ninja I really do have to sneak around these enemies to get chests or I set off the whole room. My response was saying that if they don't want sneaking to be the meta then it's easy to fix by making all mobs detect you (I hope not, sneaking is fun and finally relevant)
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    Cakellene St
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    Quote Originally Posted by Critical-Limit View Post
    There's ways to force you to kill mobs.

    1.) chests can drop from trash.
    2.) you can have 2-3 mobs transfer to new rooms, then wait a bit, then repeat. This would make you want to kill them so they don't sneak up on you.
    3.) new objective/mechanics could have you doing so.

    But yah, ANYTHING you can skip, you probably will want to lol
    Chests can drop from trash.
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