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  1. #4831
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    SilkaN's Avatar
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    Reginaux Vannaire
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    Ragnarok
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    Ninja Lv 80
    I really dislike completely silent duty finder groups.
    I get it, we aren't going to see each other again (and if we do, we will most likely have forgotten the names), but you can at least say hello at the beginning of the dungeon.

    I've had countless DF groups like this over the course of the last few days and that's why I was pleasantly surprised during my level 50 roulette yesterday.
    We got Snowcloak and we had at least one player new to the dungeon with us.
    Two level 60s (one of them being me), a level 51 tank and a level 52 dragoon.
    Not only did everyone greet each other, one of them even responded with "yes, please" when I asked if someone wanted small explanations for the bosses.
    We finished the dungeon in no time and the tank thanked me for the explanations, /bowed and left. Got 3 recommendations.

    Why do I even have to feel surprised to get such a nice party for once?
    Why can't parties like these be the norm? Is it really that difficult?
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  2. #4832
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    Mysterysword's Avatar
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    Siesta Fiesta
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    Coeurl
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by SilkaN View Post
    Why can't parties like these be the norm? Is it really that difficult?
    I find silent groups amusing, in a way. It's fun to see how easy it is to complete a dungeon without communicating anything in words.

    The alternative is the latest PotD party I was in, who started swearing at me and calling me names after I used a Fortune right before transference, on Floor 28. Even after I explained my rationale for doing so, and even after another Fortune dropped on Floor 29 and I used it, and no extra chests dropped.

    Ultimately, those "people" weren't worth talking to, and my only regret is that I even wasted the energy in explaining myself.

    I subsequently took much pleasure in tanking the Floor 30 boss (as a SMN, and no, I had Garuda-Egi out, not Titan, even), and standing right in the middle of the room to drop all the AoE puddles there, so as to cause them as much trouble as I possibly could. PotD is just a great dungeon for bringing the worst out in people.
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    Last edited by Mysterysword; 08-19-2016 at 09:11 PM.

  3. #4833
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    Vivi_Bushido's Avatar
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    Hott Cocoa
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    Spriggan
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    Bard Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by SilkaN View Post
    I really dislike completely silent duty finder groups.
    I get it, we aren't going to see each other again (and if we do, we will most likely have forgotten the names), but you can at least say hello at the beginning of the dungeon.

    I've had countless DF groups like this over the course of the last few days and that's why I was pleasantly surprised during my level 50 roulette yesterday.
    We got Snowcloak and we had at least one player new to the dungeon with us.
    Two level 60s (one of them being me), a level 51 tank and a level 52 dragoon.
    Not only did everyone greet each other, one of them even responded with "yes, please" when I asked if someone wanted small explanations for the bosses.
    We finished the dungeon in no time and the tank thanked me for the explanations, /bowed and left. Got 3 recommendations.

    Why do I even have to feel surprised to get such a nice party for once?
    Why can't parties like these be the norm? Is it really that difficult?
    I'm guilty of this one, but that's because I have no interest in making friends with you. Like I'm sorry, forgive me, but I don't. It's not like we can meet up after the instance and run again. It's roulettes with random people from other servers that I will never ever see again. So if your playing your class/job correctly, I have absolutely no reason to speak to you. Maybe some light chuckle conversation, but otherwise, I just want to get the dungeon over with as swiftly and quickly as possible, and stopping to take time to type can delay the dungeon from being completed faster.
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  4. #4834
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    Ersilon's Avatar
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    Jhaelle Rhel
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 70
    Went into leveling roulette last night with a couple of friends, and we get Sastasha. Brand new sprout marauder, first time message, and obviously skipped the Smith's lessons given their crappy gear and lack of the newbie ring. After a couple of pulls, it's pretty obvious that the tank doesn't really know how to tank, but none of us know much about warrior tanking to help the newbie, so we just sort of adapt and overcome to finish the dungeon. I look the tank up, and they're on my server. I try to PM them some advice about going through the new adventurer lessons, but they never respond, possibly because of PS4 with no keyboard...? I thought that it might be a trial account at first, but then I remember they were playing as an au ra. Dunno, but I hope they took my advice.
    (2)

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  5. #4835
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    TaranTatsuuchi's Avatar
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    Aryn Tatsuuchi
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    Balmung
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Vivi_Bushido View Post
    I'm guilty of this one, but that's because I have no interest in making friends with you. Like I'm sorry, forgive me, but I don't. It's not like we can meet up after the instance and run again. It's roulettes with random people from other servers that I will never ever see again. So if your playing your class/job correctly, I have absolutely no reason to speak to you. Maybe some light chuckle conversation, but otherwise, I just want to get the dungeon over with as swiftly and quickly as possible, and stopping to take time to type can delay the dungeon from being completed faster.
    I have actually run into a couple people in roulette that I gave advice to, or hit it off with, that happened to be on the same server as me.

    I've friended some that way, and even invited a new player to our FC from meeting them in the roulette.
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  6. #4836
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivi_Bushido View Post
    Stuff

    It's not about making friends presay. I dunno I myself HATE silent parties cause it just screams to me " I'M AN ELITIST AND YOU'RE ON MY TIME" I had parties like that and thats what I will always think when people don't or can't take one second to type hi back. IT's two letters.... And I'm on PS4 so no.. controller is not an excuse. You don't HAVE to have a million minute convo nor interview them. A simple hi is all it takes in 99% of the cases here. I'm not attacking you either but I can only go off my own personal experiences and silent parties give me bad flashbacks. But I guess that's just my issue.
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  7. #4837
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    Vivi_Bushido's Avatar
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    Hott Cocoa
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    Spriggan
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    Bard Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by cammi View Post
    It's not about making friends presay. I dunno I myself HATE silent parties cause it just screams to me " I'M AN ELITIST AND YOU'RE ON MY TIME" I had parties like that and thats what I will always think when people don't or can't take one second to type hi back. IT's two letters.... And I'm on PS4 so no.. controller is not an excuse. You don't HAVE to have a million minute convo nor interview them. A simple hi is all it takes in 99% of the cases here. I'm not attacking you either but I can only go off my own personal experiences and silent parties give me bad flashbacks. But I guess that's just my issue.
    A simple hi is not all it takes though. Your asking for a hi because you want interaction. You want conversation. What is the difference between me saying hi, than not talking, as oppose to just not talking at all? Your seeking interaction throughout the course of the instance.

    And in my experiences, I find silent parties do better. There's more trust among the players at playing their jobs. For example, the tank just pulls a size they're comfortable with, having trust in the healer. Which really should be an unspoken complement. If it wipes, they shrug it off, say sorry and try again. Mistakes happen. No need to make excuses for why the wipe happen, just go for it again.

    I speak up and help when necessary like if I catch on that someone is struggling, but otherwise I'm silent. I have better things to do with my time, and I'm only running my roulette for the daily bonus like anyone else; so I just want to get it over with as soon as possible. Call it elitism if you want to, but I'm telling you that it's not that. Maybe it'd be different if I wasn't having to run the same two dungeons everyday for Expert, on top of the fact that I can't befriend you outside the instance.

    So again, it's nothing against you or anybody else personally. I just don't want to talk. Anti-social? Maybe. Who cares. Unless I have to speak, I'm not going to. I only do so when giving advice. I'm not playing to rack up commendations. My silence should be considered an unspoken complement that you're doing fine. (Not to make that sound elitish, but it's the truth).
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    Last edited by Vivi_Bushido; 08-20-2016 at 12:25 AM.

  8. #4838
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    Moomba33's Avatar
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    Eva Gamirdren
    World
    Ultros
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    Archer Lv 100
    To me a Hi isn't asking for a conversation. It's just being polite and acknowledging the other people in your party.
    I find it rude when others don't respond to greetings honestly.
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  9. #4839
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    AskaRay's Avatar
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    Aeon Rakshasa
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    Lich
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Vivi_Bushido View Post
    I'm guilty of this one, but that's because I have no interest in making friends with you. Like I'm sorry, forgive me, but I don't. It's not like we can meet up after the instance and run again. It's roulettes with random people from other servers that I will never ever see again. So if your playing your class/job correctly, I have absolutely no reason to speak to you. Maybe some light chuckle conversation, but otherwise, I just want to get the dungeon over with as swiftly and quickly as possible, and stopping to take time to type can delay the dungeon from being completed faster.
    This isn't really an excuse...
    I also have no intention of making friends but I still say "Hi" and "thank you" at the very least. You know, basic common decency. Type in "hi" as you load in, and "thanks/bye" after the boss is dead. No time lost. If I have the time to type in "hi" in the 0.5 seconds loading in that my SSD affords me, you can too.
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  10. #4840
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    Archaell's Avatar
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    Arch Idealist
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    Alpha
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    Blacksmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SilkaN View Post
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    There isn't much difference between saying hi/bye and nothing at all. It might be slightly polite but that is about it. Personally I would not consider explaining mechanics much better. There isn't much room for being socially inside of the cross server runs due to all the grinding and actually it might even waste your time that you could spend being social with people on your own server where it actually makes sense to make friends.

    My suggestion is to bring friends to the parties, you are more likely to have non silent groups that way... tho then I wonder if the other party members aren't suffering too much. It's kinda hilarious when you get in right in the middle of explaining that there was a random naked girl in your kitchen few minutes ago ^^
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    The main reason why the Party Finder is not working for the harder content and so many groups disband after few wipes is caused by the players who ignore the comments.

    Getting to the phase XYZ once does not mean you are ready to join parties to do XYZ.

    Parties should spend most of the time doing the phase that is written in the comment not trying to get there.

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