Enough with the Feast matchup nonsense

[NoelNoel]

Currently the Feast is a joke because of the matchup system, it basically falls to whoever gets the less newbies in their PT wins. This needs to stop, I'm not here to carry anyone or suffer their incompetence, I'm here to have fun and try to improve with and against people of my level, and reach the ranking I'm aiming for asap. Currently is just frustration and stress.

If you are to keep this matchup system, fine, but you need to prepare your players for pvp, we are all expecting the best from our teamates, people who have never pvp'd, who don't know they have pvp abilties, who show up undergeared, or with the wrong accessories must not be allowed to be paired with higher ranked players. Hell I'd even take matchups with ranked people vs unranked/newbies over what we have now, because at least steamrolling people is stress free.

1. Warn players who step into the Feast that they are expected to know the basics of pvp, mostly their pvp skills. A simple message to new pvp players, telling them they have pvp skills and that they need to use these would be cool. I suppose there's actually a mini guide that pops for new players, but a reminder should pop EVERYTIME for people who have no points assigned to their pvp skills. Or maybe (might be hard to do) force them to have the actions on a bar if they are to queue for pvp.

2. Players should need to have a minimum of frontline matches played, not many, maybe 5, but at least they wouldn't be completely ignorant of pvp. Ideally we should have an unranked 4 vs 4 Feast mode, and the requirement would be to have at least 5 matches played in that, before being able to step into ranked. Also that would be a filter for people who just one time to see if they like The Feast, and just mess up others rankings.

3. Have a gear requirement, of at least lvl 150 for each piece of gear. I could be even more tyrannical about that and ask that we'd be forced to use our main stats only for accessories, but pvp gear choice is also a good part of the current pvp so I don't really see a solution to that. Let's say when I see a NIN with full VIT accessories I'm not hoping for much from them.

4. Participants need to have all their job quests unlocked...

5. When someone DCs or leaves the match, the match should immediately be ended and be a draw. Sometimes people take a while to get booted in case of DC, maybe after a 30 sec immobility/iddling the person should be kicked automatically.


On another note, it would be EXTREMELY nice to have a recap chart of pvp actions specifities. Maybe on the Lodestone? I'm talking about things such as the 15 yalms range for BRD/MCH, that are burried deep in past patch notes.

[Praesul]

The matchmaking changes took something I used to really enjoy and made it feel like work. It's not fun anymore.

[Koltik]

Everyone who PvP's agrees with you. Feast has been a joke, especially over the past week. So many new people who have no idea what they are doing and strip the fun out of any match that they are a part of.

[DruakH]

I went from 840 rating down to 697 rating today. I've won like two matches and the rest have been loses because of unranked healers or tanks that were below i150 gear and do not know what pvp abilities are. This mode has just become a joke.

[NovaLevossida]

I doubt they'll ever put in any sort of restrictions for entry like that. I'm a big fan of putting in Stone Sky Sea trial completions at least for the latest EX trials (and can then remove the restrictions a patch later) because most of the people in party finder have no business doing that content, but we haven't gotten that yet.

[NoelNoel]

I went from 840 rating down to 697 rating today. I've won like two matches and the rest have been loses because of unranked healers or tanks that were below i150 gear and do not know what pvp abilities are. This mode has just become a joke.

One of the top players of Primal went from Platinum more or less 1800 to around 1300 and back to gold.

Seeing that 5th point I listed I just realized this could be exploited to not have a rating drop... The outcome of a match can change in the last seconds, but I guess some people would just use DC/leave to not take any risk. Not that DCs happen a lot but the few times it does it's very annoying.

[Thekk]

I've only recently started doing Feast again and I have to say I kinda feel bad for all the gold healers I'm getting matched against while I'm still in bronze that get bronze dps vs the gold dps in my team. My win rate is through the roof, but I can't say I look forward to catching up

I did get multiple new players that didn't even have ilvl 150 on my team though...

[Aviars]

Seeing that 5th point I listed I just realized this could be exploited to not have a rating drop... The outcome of a match can change in the last seconds, but I guess some people would just use DC/leave to not take any risk. Not that DCs happen a lot but the few times it does it's very annoying.

Ya, there is no real way to deal with DC's effectively. The only thing I can think of is the game pauses for a minute to allow the player a chance to come back. Any other way however can be abused really badly so.

[Thekk]

Ya, there is no real way to deal with DC's effectively. The only thing I can think of is the game pauses for a minute to allow the player a chance to come back. Any other way however can be abused really badly so.

That still could easily be abused. About to lose? Just dc to make the other team waste time.

[Februs]

That still could easily be abused. About to lose? Just dc to make the other team waste time.

That would only be a problem if the timer kept ticking while the points were paused, because the winning team could DC a player and just run the clock. If they completely froze the match (no medal drops for kills and timer is frozen), then the only way they could abuse it is if the DC'd player didn't come back at all, but they would probably just consider that a forfeit for that player's team. If the DC'd player didn't come back within x amount of minutes then their team is disqualified at a loss, so there would be no benefit to DC'ing, even if your team was in the lead when you left.