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    Quote Originally Posted by Venjamin View Post
    Nay - I started when Heavensward was released because Astrologians looked amazing. Imagine my dismay finding I had to go through SO MUCH MSQ to unlock them. xD
    In a nutshell a certain youtuber was around spreading the word on how full str was so good and how tanks, warriors mostly could do the same dps as a dps class and how str was great for every tank as it helped them to keep aggro. So pretty a good amount of tanks, newbies included jumped in that bandwagon and were going full str.
    While it worked quite well for those who knew how to tank, those who had no idea what defensive cooldowns were made every single healer life a living hell as they were barely tankier than a dps and yet still wanted to pull big, and as you might've noticed, ARR dungeons have a lot of space for large pulls unlike HW dungeons.

    At the same time tank stance dancing became popular too, i got to the point i had to heal through a large pull with a full str pld (like 7k hp) on sword oath. Holy was absolutely required back then as stun was like a mini hallowed ground to keep these people alive. Good times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mp-please View Post
    Snip!
    Sounds hectic in all the right ways. Were healers expected to DPS as hard as they are now, during that time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Venjamin View Post
    Sounds hectic in all the right ways. Were healers expected to DPS as hard as they are now, during that time?
    Wouldn't say expected but a dpsing healer would be a godsend with pulls as big as ARR dungeons allowed mainly when nins and monks had literally no aoe. WHM dps was welcomed specially due the holy stun and holy being the 2nd strongest aoe skill back then (1st being flare), scholar could also heal in cleric as lustrate was based on hp % rather than having a fixed potency.

    At some point some tanks even took a hatred towards healers dpsing because we weren't babysitting them enough and demanding them to actually use cooldowns even though then and even now healers do a lot more dps than any tank can do at max efficiency.

    People are mostly expecting healers to dps right now since tanks have ridiculous of hp, are able to self heal, pulls are conditioned through barriers with a 5mob/pull average and mobs in those pulls hit like wet noodles. But yea right now things are a lot more peaceful, those tanks realized cooldowns are to be used and with so much vit its rare to be surprised by damage spikes like crits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mp-please View Post
    In a nutshell a certain youtuber was around spreading the word on how full str was so good and how tanks, warriors mostly could do the same dps as a dps class and how str was great for every tank as it helped them to keep aggro. So pretty a good amount of tanks, newbies included jumped in that bandwagon and were going full str.

    At the same time tank stance dancing became popular too, i got to the point i had to heal through a large pull with a full str pld (like 7k hp) on sword oath. Good times.
    A PLD using Sword Oath in a mass pull when it has no AoE... *Cringe.* Right, reduce the healer's actually existent, and legitamately powerful, AoE, for your auto-attack damage...
    I could see dropping Shield Oath just before CoS and then turning it right back on, maybe. But that's it.

    At least some of us will now Clemency when Bulwark/Awareness aren't up instead. Yay greater AoE uptime.

    (Btw, anyone remember that one Shield to Sword swap bug that let you have Shield Oath enmity during Sword Oath damage...?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    A PLD using Sword Oath in a mass pull when it has no AoE... *Cringe.* Right, reduce the healer's actually existent, and legitamately powerful, AoE, for your auto-attack damage...
    I could see dropping Shield Oath just before CoS and then turning it right back on, maybe. But that's it.
    It was on the 2nd large pull on wanderer's palace HM after the 2nd boss, you know that one path with 3 totems? And the madman pulled them all on sword oath, full str.
    Needless to say it was a wipe. But the funny part is that i did kept him alive, he just didn't kept aggro from me, once holy stuns ran out everything was on me
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