Gladiator at low to mid level is lacking a balance post patch 1.19

[Amsai]

I don't know about lower levels, but my r50 gla is wrecking things like never before, post-patch.

Yea my level 50 Gladiator isnt having that problem either, only a problem with the shield skills seeming less useful than mauraders parry + the parry materia. Though I'd love to hear how or if your doing well with your defensive skills (thats your defensive skills, not the mages cures). Thats my only high level problem, because damage and hate arent problems for me at least.

Now at low levels I seem to be having problems with WSs giving crap damage and having sh*t for survival skills, even using a lot of cross classable skills

[Spuffin]

I do think it needs to be examined. My GLA at the moment is level 10 and my damage (with a level appropriate weapon) is simply atrocious.

A. You're a tank

B. You're only level 10

C. You may be wearing gear but you are not wearing gear that enhances attack and str, higher levels you will find more gear with actual attack and str in large quantities

D. As far as surviveability goes try stacking HP and VIT and obtain higher leves for greater deffensive skills. once again, extra str and vit will be available at higher levels.

Level 50 GLA seem to be doing fine. They are able to intake massive damage, keep hate, have over 600-700MP and do decent damage. They do not do insane damage as they are tanks. They may have a WS or two that do more than any other they have for some extra hate.

Lower levels are ment to be difficult. Just as they were in FF11 or any other game. Once you hit 40+ along with multiple mixed abilities from other classes and you are wearing appropriate gear with enhanced stats along with slotted materia, then you will notice a difference.

They added materia for a reason. Slotting materia to your gear is like purchasing ALL HQ items at your level range for best damage output and mitigation . If you want to see greater results, resort to materia. It's what SE intended. It's the same thing as an HQ item in FF11 but a different concept.

You people need to understand that your characters are not ment to be gods and or tear through things at low leves as if you were a level 50 with maxed gear... I don't understand your logic behind that. -_-

[Cycloptichorn]

Yea my level 50 Gladiator isnt having that problem either, only a problem with the shield skills seeming less useful than mauraders parry + the parry materia. Though I'd love to hear how or if your doing well with your defensive skills (thats your defensive skills, not the mages cures). Thats my only high level problem, because damage and hate arent problems for me at least.

Now at low levels I seem to be having problems with WSs giving crap damage and having sh*t for survival skills, even using a lot of cross classable skills

Increased duration of Sentinel and Aegis Boon II have been great. I don't think blocking works as well as it did before, so a lot of my previous block-> Phalanx strategies aren't working very well. But I've noticed that I seem to gain a lot more TP than I did before; Invigorate-Light Slash-Heavy Slash-Heavy Stab are now getting me somewhere around 1800 TP and it's a short auto-attack from that to Riot Blade, I'm using Riot Blade far more often than ever before - and hitting for great damage with it.

Rampart II seems to cancel more damage than it did before, tho I haven't actually tested it.

[Amsai]

A. You're a tank

B. You're only level 10

C. You may be wearing gear but you are not wearing gear that enhances attack and str, higher levels you will find more gear with actual attack and str in large quantities

D. As far as surviveability goes try stacking HP and VIT and obtain higher leves for greater deffensive skills.

Level 50 GLA seem to be doing fine. They are able to intake massive damage, keep hate, have over 600-700MP.

Lower levels are ment to be difficult. Just as they were in FF11 or any other game. Once you hit 40+ along with multiple mixed abilities from other classes and you are wearing appropriate gear with enhanced stats along with slotted materia, then you will notice a difference.

I pretty much agree with this as well, but I dont think that this should mean that lower level Gladiators should be useless while all other classes at the same level basically murder everything. Just needs some balancing to either make damage a bit more respectable and having better survivability. Trust me, there is a problem, because something that is a joke to every other level 30 class (aside from maybe archer) is ususally a serious problem for my lvl 30 Glad.

[Cycloptichorn]

By the way, has anyone tried using Cadence to increase hate? The skill was changed to that in the last patch, but I dunno how effective it is...

[Amsai]

Increased duration of Sentinel and Aegis Boon II have been great. I don't think blocking works as well as it did before, so a lot of my previous block-> Phalanx strategies aren't working very well. But I've noticed that I seem to gain a lot more TP than I did before; Invigorate-Light Slash-Heavy Slash-Heavy Stab are now getting me somewhere around 1800 TP and it's a short auto-attack from that to Riot Blade, I'm using Riot Blade far more often than ever before - and hitting for great damage with it.


Rampart II seems to cancel more damage than it did before, tho I haven't actually tested it.

What shield type are you using? One with higher block rate or one with higher block? Also I have seen + parry materia, and im not sure if I should even consider using it, but what I havent seen are any +block or +block rate materia :c

[Cycloptichorn]

What shield type are you using? One with higher block rate or one with higher block? Also I have seen + parry materia, and im not sure if I should even consider using it, but what I havent seen are any +block or +block rate materia :c

Vintage Kite shield. Dunno the stats under the new system.

[Kopuno]

Hmmm wierd, I havent had this issue at all. In fact its quite the opposite. I've gone from 36-40 solo doing, Leve, GCleve's and can usually take 3-4 mobs my level and kill them pretty steadily. I often don't have to rest much either. A few things I noticed however..

Gear matters, I swapped out almost all my gear to lvl appropriate and non dated gear and my Armor value sky rocketed. Also keeping buffs up at all times makes things so much easier. Shell, Protect, Shock Spikes, Rampart, Sentinel, Defender ect.

[Dreamer]

Upper level glad is fine. It's the 1-25 crew that is currently having issues.

[Amsai]

Hmmm wierd, I havent had this issue at all. In fact its quite the opposite. I've gone from 36-40 solo doing, Leve, GCleve's and can usually take 3-4 mobs my level and kill them pretty steadily. I often don't have to rest much either. A few things I noticed however..

Gear matters, I swapped out almost all my gear to lvl appropriate and non dated gear and my Armor value sky rocketed. Also keeping buffs up at all times makes things so much easier. Shell, Protect, Shock Spikes, Rampart, Sentinel, Defender ect.

Hmm, interseting Im using all dated gear, cause I already had it, but it is class/level appropriate. I would switch over, but wasnt planning on wasting materia slots or the expense on low level gear so didnt think it mattered. Is new recipe gear really that much better? Also as I said before most of my WSs seem to be doing as much as my regular attacks, aside from red lotus 2 which of course eats the little MPs I have..... As far as abilities, I use all that you suggested except for Sentinel, but Im still a few levels away from that.

@Clyco, at low levels the shields block and block rate are crap so I know thats part of the problem, but also there are no low level kite shields :c

Maybe I could upgarade my gear, but its kind of odd that I didnt have to do that to faceroll with other classes on even match enemies.