Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[bounddreamer]

As far as I'm aware if you choose roulette it sticks you with people from any language, or that's what I've found anyway; when I do specific 9/10 I get english speakers, when I do roulette I seem to get stuck with non-english speaking people a lot more. I could be wrong ofc.

You can select English only yourself, but the other players can choose all languages in order to make their queue faster regardless of whether they speak English or not. This is very common when queueing for duty roulette especially as queue times can be very long for some roles.

[Lokier]

You can select English only yourself, but the other players can choose all languages in order to make their queue faster regardless of whether they speak English or not. This is very common when queueing for duty roulette especially as queue times can be very long for some roles.

I don't blame the French for not wanting to work with other French players, they have a bad rep' on Odin when it comes to D/F, lmao.

Also, my point was that roulette seems to be random, you don't choose a language so you can get stuck with non-english speakers since they don't want to go to a French server, etc. (I seem to remember getting an option to choose what server anyway, like "dutch, french, english, american." I could be wrong and Odin, etc, is just labelled "EU."

[MeiUshu]

Exactly ergo why someone should at least be 50. In my example she would have known what sacred soil is what shadowflare is what lustrate is... and how to deal with a fairy. Anyway no problem is potd and i take what comes it is just sad ..not using skills is dven more a waste of skills tban using them wrongly

[MeiUshu]

@Darkobra

So yiu are complaining because they are french or because they didnt know the place??? One doesnt necesseraly equate the other. You had a choice why didnt you leave? i mean better than being this aggravated

[Aosha]

Also, my point was that roulette seems to be random, you don't choose a language so you can get stuck with non-english speakers since they don't want to go to a French server, etc. (I seem to remember getting an option to choose what server anyway, like "dutch, french, english, american." I could be wrong and Odin, etc, is just labelled "EU."

The language options work the same for roulettes as they do for everything else: If you tic E and F you will only be matched with people who ticced E or F. As I only ever tic E I should only ever meet people who do the same, and with that claim they can speak English. The problem is people (and English speakers are guilty of this too) ticcing languages they don't actually speak, in hopes for better queues.
In addition, you get matched with people not only from your own server, but all the servers of your data center, in your and my cases, the Chaos center.

[Atoli]

(I seem to remember getting an option to choose what server anyway, like "dutch, french, english, american." I could be wrong and Odin, etc, is just labelled "EU."

Don't know why that "Dutch" instead of "German" hurts so much x)
But no, all servers are simply labeled EU, but you might have read which servers are favoured by certain nationalities the most somewhere else and chose based on that?

As I only ever tic E I should only ever meet people who do the same, and with that claim they can speak English. The problem is people (and English speakers are guilty of this too) ticcing languages they don't actually speak, in hopes for better queues.

Right?! That really annoys me. If you tic the language, it means you claim you can communicate in it enough to get through the content even if problems arise. But whenever I say that, I get shot down by people who say "It's justified because otherwise the queues would be unbearable" and "It doesn't matter, all content is easy enough anyway to clear it without communicating", "Don't push your standards onto me" and so on. Really makes me mad because actually, content is as hard as the competence of the participating players makes it. So all the time I end up with French players who know neither English nor German yet 'claim' they do speak those languages only to selfishly improve their queue times :/

(And yes I know other players do this too, it's just that I don't notice because I tic the other languages myself so they are supposed to appear xD)

[Aosha]

So yiu are complaining because they are french or because they didnt know the place??? One doesnt necesseraly equate the other. You had a choice why didnt you leave? i mean better than being this aggravated

I think he was mainly complaining about people queuing with languages they don't speak, which makes not knowing the place a problem (which it otherwise would not be, since if there was no language barrier, other players, or in this case apparently the only player who knew what was going on, could explain). This is also one thing that makes the usually calm me unnecessarily angry when it happens.
As for why he didn't leave, I don't know. I tend to stick with my DF groups as long as a run seems at least somehow salvageable, but I don't know if even I would have stayed with that group...

[FinaSel]

The language selecting system for Duty Finder needs to be fixed.

Very often people select languages they do not speak and it causes problems in Extreme Primals and in PvP. And even in normal dungeons when someone is new.
The FFXIV staff said in a video that with this feature people can choose to only be in a party with others who speak the same language.

They also said if you just want to match quickly, you can select any language.

The problem is that even with this feature, the people who want to be matched only with others who speak the same language will still be matched with people who just want to match quickly. In other words, the system favors people who want to be matched quickly.

If person A says "F only" but person B says "E, D, F, J", the system will see that person A and person B "match".

I would hope the system could prioritize matching people based on client language, and less on Duty Finder selections.

[MeiUshu]

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let me ask a question, what should an italian speaking player thick for a box?...yeah none. My point being that from the moment you use DF you accept many things and this of language is a consequence as it looks he was the odd one in that group since they were french, or better said french speaking people not necesseraly from France. Still stands if you are not happy with a group just leave, being that aggravated for such a trival thing is totally silly. I stick too with DF and I accept this fact so for me doesnt matter eventually when tired of dying they will either go or start listening.

[Watachy]

Woaw

Blaming cause they're newcomers ? You know that people don't respond/speak aren't only french ? I mean, ok you had a bad run, everyone got bad runs. Don't hate people for it, cause if that's something we should do, then the worst people in DF are the germans: stubborn, won't respond, won't listen and probably insulting you in german in chat when i don't even tick D on my DF !