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  1. #151
    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    Cerberus
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    Reaper Lv 90
    My enthusiasm for this game is starting to fade. I don't mean to sound like I'm whining but as someone who loves to collect things in the games I choose to invest in I'm really starting to grow weary. The UK campaign for the special mount and glamour set was handed incredibly poorly and I'm still waiting to hear back from the magazine company after buying an issue that had no code within it. The Yo-Kai event revolves around one of the most tedious bits of content in the game. Why not simply reward the legendary medals as a guaranteed drop at the end of a dungeon roulette? That would at least add some variety.

    Then today I find that the developers didn't even account for griefing in the latest seasonal event. It should have been obvious that there would be a huge turnout on a server like Balmung...let alone that selfish players would screw people over out of spite. Sure, they plan to fix it but the fact that they didn't account for such a thing in the first place is rather troublesome.
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  2. #152
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    Natashio's Avatar
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    Natashi Tamaruo
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    Mateus
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    Archer Lv 63
    The only fix I see with this is to open up more areas where these things spawn. Other than that, just wait till later. Thing is going to last for a month so..
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    Is it reset Tuesday yet.

    I question whether I'm playing a PvE game with PvP mixed in, or I am I playing a PfG.

  3. #153
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    Zojha's Avatar
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    Lodestone Bait
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    Pandaemonium
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    Gladiator Lv 1
    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    I don't agree with that at all, it's like saying every quest should be designed for the zerg rush. that would be a terrible way to fram your quest design.
    It is the sign of an experienced developer to foresee issues caused by recurring player behaviour and take appropriate measures - it's plain and simple learning from mistakes. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. And a zerg at events really is nothing new. Neither is reward maximization, which is why SE just recently had to change the way PotD upgrades work. I, at least, sure hope they'll learn from that, because otherwise they'll keep doing the same mistakes expecting different results - insanity.

    In this case, I'd say it'd be as simple as to make the whole thing function like a leve-quest - you go to the area, pop the quest, tab your way through the masses to find your target, which, as leve targets are wont to do, is not attack-able by other players, and then proceed. Not only would that have fixed the issue of bombs being slaughtered, it would also have fixed the issue of 60s one-hitting the mobs, as leves can be scaled.
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  4. #154
    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Miles Saintborough
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    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    Actually, I know that I don't; and I suspect, based on your other postings, that you don't 'zerg' the game either.
    When it's 3 to 1 for speed runs, majority rules and I have no say in it.
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  5. #155
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    KiumraRei's Avatar
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    Rei Kimura
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    Gilgamesh
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Who let the bombs out is pretty frustrating when you manage to tag a bomb but 20+ overgeared people kill it in one shot lol hope they fix that ._.
    (1)

  6. #156
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    Shadotterdan's Avatar
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    Shalala Shala
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 90
    I'm at like, 3 fps near the quest giver, I'll wait a couple days
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  7. #157
    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Kosmos Meishou
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    Behemoth
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    In this case, I'd say it'd be as simple as to make the whole thing function like a leve-quest - you go to the area, pop the quest, tab your way through the masses to find your target, which, as leve targets are wont to do, is not attack-able by other players, and then proceed. Not only would that have fixed the issue of bombs being slaughtered, it would also have fixed the issue of 60s one-hitting the mobs, as leves can be scaled.
    It would be easier and more MMO friendlty to use an item to 'pop' the instance like a treasure map since that system already works in the open world and the mobs are only attackable by your party.
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  8. #158
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    KiumraRei's Avatar
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    Rei Kimura
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    Gilgamesh
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by FinaSel View Post
    So at first it was okay.
    Then many people came and thought to kill bombs to complete the quest.

    But, relatively quickly, most of us decided to work together to complete this.
    This is the result.



    We made a line, and two people take turn going in to capture the bombs.
    this was suggested on gilgamesh, people laughed. trolling continues harder lol
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  9. #159
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    Rihael Eden
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    Hyperion
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Yeah.. when I did this quest last night, most of the time, there was one guy jumping around, deliberately one-shotting everything and provoking people further through shouts. His excuse was that he wasn't the first one to do it.

    It only takes one person to ruin it for everyone.

    After he stopped, some people had a chance to get some credit. Most people are nice. New people come in and don't realize one-shotting is a thing, but just asking them to use a smaller weapon or whatnot is enough.


    Personally, I don't understand why the bombards weren't at least designed like the Zahar'ak Hatchlings. When they're hurt enough that normally they would've been killed, they sit prone on the ground for a while with fixed health, giving you a chance to use your quest item on them. So even if you could one-shot them, you still have a chance.
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  10. #160
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    From what I have seen the problem is most people do not realize they can't use their high level DoW/DoM gear and weapons to weaken them. When tell them to switch to DoL or DoH, even switch to low level weapon etc they seem willing to do so. Most people killing them are doing so out of ignorance rather than trolling though some are killing out of spite.
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    Last edited by Snugglebutt; 08-06-2016 at 03:10 AM.

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