1 Materia makes any crafted item better than any NM/Raid/Dungeon item. Why?

[Murugan]

Difficulty? Yeah, making 500 of the best materia in game (4.2M each), 500 catalysts (300-600 hours farming), 500 of the gear you want (and of course, the worth of the gear you want is 500k)

This is the numbers for placing 3 iv materias. Please buy this money from RMT and say it is easy.

2100 Millions for Materia
5000*500 = 250000 for catalysts if buying
500000*500 = 250 Millions if buying gear

in all 2.3525 Billion gil for a gear with 3 iv materia.

You go use 3 million dollars on a game, you be pretty dumb. You CANNOT buy materia if intending to use forbidden materia craft.

You can absolutely buy Materia, and most people will eventually go that route if they are trying to make 4 slotted gear (just like the majority of people who had Relics in FFXI bought at least part of that currency). Materia will drop in price, people will get lucky, and people do have that much gil. I'm fine with Materia being one route to having top of the line gear, I think most of us are.

We just want endgame encounters to give us some kind of reward which continues to progress our character. I assume that most people involved in endgame are going to be doing whatever they can to improve their character in or out of that content, because that is how endgame communities have always been (except maybe in WoW or a couple other WoW clones/F2P games with cash shops). With that in mind I'd like the raids to offer something which progresses us on top of the effort that we will already be putting in to get to the point where we beat it.

[Medura]

You can absolutely buy Materia, and most people will eventually go that route if they are trying to make 4 slotted gear (just like the majority of people who had Relics in FFXI bought at least part of that currency). Materia will drop in price, people will get lucky, and people do have that much gil. I'm fine with Materia being one route to having top of the line gear, I think most of us are.

We just want endgame encounters to give us some kind of reward which continues to progress our character. I assume that most people involved in endgame are going to be doing whatever they can to improve their character in or out of that content, because that is how endgame communities have always been (except maybe in WoW or a couple other WoW clones/F2P games with cash shops). With that in mind I'd like the raids to offer something which progresses us on top of the effort that we will already be putting in to get to the point where we beat it.

For your attention: How to buy ONE gear with 3 slots for more gil than exists on the server?

You say 4 slots? Ok, add 3 zeroes too the number i wrote, cause thats how much more that will cost.

[Murugan]

what is your point? mine is just coz other ppl are doing something don't mean you have to copy. i mean why the hurry to power lvl everything. to get to endgame? what the same endgame that is not really there yet? or are you in such a hurry coz you don't like the fact that your not the first. i don't want this to sound like i'm saying you are this kind of person. but i am talking about ppl that use the auto macros to power lvl craft and get a lvl 50 combat to help power lvl their DoW/DoM. i personally am going to take my time if it takes me forever to get all classes to 50 then i'll have fun rying as my sig says

Endgame is endgame, it is the hardest content in the game and many people enjoy challenging themselves with it. I respect your slow and steady/stop and smell the flowers approach, but you need to realize that for others that is not why they personally play. They play to progress both their character and their playing skill to its utmost potential. Most often these types of players are found in the "endgame community".

That is where Alex is coming from, and I think you should just be a little less condescending towards his chosen play style.

[Murugan]

For your little ass attention: How to buy ONE gear with 3 slots for more gil than exists on the server?

You say 4 slots? Ok, add 3 zeroes too the number i wrote, cause thats how much more that will cost.

Pretty hostile for the same point. Both crafted gear with 3 slotted Materia and crafted gear with 4 slotted materia generally far outshine anything you would find in most content. In fact the title of the thread is "1 Materia makes any crafted item better than any NM/Raid/Dungeon item. Why?" so why don't you just take away all of those zeroes in your hypothetical (based on inflated "just released items" numbers).

It's beside the point though that it is still a matter of cost, and endgame content still needs rewards for those players to progress their characters since they will be the ones most often pushing the limits of Materia (or any other system they throw at us to progress our characters).

[Medura]

Endgame is endgame, it is the hardest content in the game and many people enjoy challenging themselves with it. I respect your slow and steady/stop and smell the flowers approach, but you need to realize that for others that is not why they personally play. They play to progress both their character and their playing skill to its utmost potential. Most often these types of players are found in the "endgame community".

That is where Alex is coming from, and I think you should just be a little less condescending towards his chosen play style.

His play style is that everyone else is wrong and he is right.
And YOU "sir" are a troll. Shoo Shoo we don't want your type in this game.

[Buddhsie]

Are you seriously considering attaching 3 or 4 tier IV materia to a single item? That's not how the system was intended to work. You lower the tier, increase the quality of the main item and you increase your chances.. It's pretty simple, and it stops the gear from becoming way too overpowered.

[Murugan]

His play style is that everyone else is wrong and he is right.
And YOU "sir" are a troll. Shoo Shoo we don't want your type in this game.

He said that? I must have misread his post, because I just saw an explanation of how the game currently works and his complaints based on that. Maybe you should reread it.

[Medura]

Pretty hostile for the same point. Both crafted gear with 3 slotted Materia and crafted gear with 4 slotted materia generally far outshine anything you would find in most content. In fact the title of the thread is "1 Materia makes any crafted item better than any NM/Raid/Dungeon item. Why?" so why don't you just take away all of those zeroes in your hypothetical (based on inflated "just released items" numbers).

It's beside the point though that it is still a matter of cost, and endgame content still needs rewards for those players to progress their characters since they will be the ones most often pushing the limits of Materia (or any other system they throw at us to progress our characters).

i wrote that, and edited it 15 seconds after, to check if you were serious or trolling. Only a real big troll would stalk a thread just to say he is right. Btw, you have said different things now, i am confused, do you mean "this" or, do you actually mean the opposite? The only important thing for you is being right, am i right?

[Medura]

Are you seriously considering attaching 3 or 4 tier IV materia to a single item? That's not how the system was intended to work. You lower the tier, increase the quality of the main item and you increase your chances.. It's pretty simple, and it stops the gear from becoming way too overpowered.

attaching 3 materia to tier 1 would cost 5 mill, attaching 4 would cost 500 mill. Yes, thats how "easy" it is. Do you have 500 mill gil?

[Murugan]

i wrote that, and edited it 15 seconds after, to check if you were serious or trolling. Only a real big troll would stalk a thread just to say he is right. Btw, you have said different things now, i am confused, do you mean "this" or, do you actually mean the opposite? The only important thing for you is being right, am i right?

You caught me I was "stalking this thread" (though to be fair our posts are 2 minutes apart, not 15 seconds)...

The rest of your post kind of lost me. Do you mind explaining?