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  1. #71
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    Sylvia Valadis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindiori View Post
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    Where I did I ever say "Gimme my mount on a silver platter for just logging on!!!"? I simply said making us do an average of 800 fates for everything is ridiculously too much, especially when all things considered that's over ten times the amount of fates needed just for the minions. This is a crossover limited time event and yet it's comparable to atma grinding, which was for end game weapons at the time, and plenty of folks still saw ATMA grind as a ridiculous pain in the butt. I fail to see how doing 222 fates instead of the ~800 is asking for instant gratification, when at level 60 for my main job with some various other jobs leveled for cross class purposes, I only had roughly 250 fates already done from my time spent playing the game. I'm glad you can some how carve time out to do it, but please understand not everyone can do it, nor is everyone somehow willing to 800 fates for a limited time event that's just grinding at fates.

    Also lol at thinking "this genre is on its deathbed" because players dislike ridiculous levels of grinding for limited time events.

    Quote Originally Posted by MaeIsMean View Post
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    It's not hard nor have I ever said that it was hard, but it's a tedious pain in the butt that I'm surprised anyone could enjoy themselves with. But hey, glad you find paint drying enjoyable again once you change the color of the paint, that's definitely not an ability a majority of players have.

    Quote Originally Posted by MaeIsMean View Post
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    Never mentioned it was "too hard", just a tedious boring pain in the butt that could effectively be much less painful. I don't see how doing 222 fates is seen as boring, but 800 is a fun walk and exciting walk in the park.

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    God, it's like people don't even bother reading past the first few words in my original post considering some of the responses.. also laughing at someone calling me "entitled", good job using a useless buzzword buckaroo.
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    I'm a giant dragon and heretic sympathizer and I love character customization

    See my thread about equalizing the heights for men and women of each race! http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/253435-A-suggestion-regarding-height.

  2. #72
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    mosaicex's Avatar
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    Noyoyo Noyo
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    Typhon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindiori View Post
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    Funny how you mentioned "Challenge" while supporting event like this. If anything, it's on the opposite side of it.

    Easter Event? Pretty fun, not too grindy. Valentione event? Not as fun, but still interesting nonetheless. Heavensturn FATE? Could have been better if there were some variation and difficulty to the FATE.

    This event is just shit and completely recycled from an already existing 'popular and well-received' system. Then again I understand why you like it, because all you had to do was summon the minion, get to the fate and push one or two buttons, wait for the RNGesus to grace you with the medal. No thinking required. Simply perfect for busy and successful person such as yourself.

    The genre is on it's deadbed simply because people like you condone poorly thought out event such as this.
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    Last edited by mosaicex; 08-03-2016 at 12:08 PM. Reason: typo

  3. #73
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    As someone who owns all 13 weps and the mount, this event was bad and squeenix should feel bad.

    I never want to look at a stupid atma farm ever again.
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    Last edited by cakesphere; 08-03-2016 at 11:02 AM.

  4. #74
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    Gamers these days don't even know what a grind is....
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  5. #75
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaeIsMean View Post
    Gamers these days don't even know what a grind is....
    Getting Cleric 1.0 in EQ.
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  6. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaeIsMean View Post
    Gamers these days don't even know what a grind is....
    IDK, USApyon took me 161 fates alone (30 tokens). Komasan took about 100 (I was keeping exact track at one point, but at around 90 I gave up). That was pretty grindy.

    EDIT: I mean it wasn't og Maplestory grindy, I guess. Not that that makes it acceptable.
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    Last edited by cakesphere; 08-03-2016 at 11:37 AM.

  7. #77
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaeIsMean View Post
    Gamers these days don't even know what a grind is....
    why should an event be grindy? relic weapon although not as grindy as other MMOs (unless they change the way progression works in this game they will never be on par with the grindiest of MMO grinds. but I digress)it is still considered grindy compared to most of the other things in this game. I am not opposed to making things difficult or hard to obtain so long as it serves a reason to as hard/grindy as it is. grinding for a powerful weapon, ok sounds good. challenging yourself as a player and take on end game raiding to get which at the time it is implemented the best gear fair enough, but this is an event we are talking about. not some super powerful weapon or armor that is the best in the game. what purpose does extending the time it takes to complete this event serve? i can't think of a single good reason to make it brain dead boring the event is. even is the event was reduced to having one legendary medal for each fate completed it would still be lazily done. the only reason i can see it being shoved into fates (for it is always fates) is to make the game look more populated then it already is.

    P.S I would like to restate that i am not looking for "instant gratification" poor design is poor design.
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  8. #78
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samcaesar View Post
    God, it's like people don't even bother reading past the first few words in my original post considering some of the responses.. also laughing at someone calling me "entitled", good job using a useless buzzword buckaroo.
    The "event" wasn't exciting. It was a grind, but that's what the guys at yo kai wanted. It was a bit mindless, but there's ample time to do it, and no reason to rush. If grinding fates bores you that much, do a few a day. Say 'Ok, I'm going to get 3 medals today" and go out and do fates for an hour, and move on. Don't come to the forums and cry that it's "too long" and ask for it to be nerfed a week into it. That's ridiculous.
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  9. #79
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    Quote Originally Posted by raymon View Post
    why should an event be grindy?
    Why not? There's ALOT offered in this event. 2 mounts, 13 glamour weapons AND 13 minions. I see no problem with having to put forth a little effort to get them.
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  10. #80
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    The biggest letdown is that they could have done something like tie things in to the mechanics of Yo-kai Watch to get new players interested in the series (I know it's huge in Japan but the NA playerbase is much smaller )

    Instead we got a horrible grindfest that does nothing to communicate the kind of game YW is and why I find it so fun.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm definitely getting YW2 when it finally hits NA in September, but this whole thing has definitely soured me a bit on the IP, which is a real shame.
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