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  1. #351
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
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    Yeah, the resources are finite that's why I'm all in for npc clothing following the same pattern (although cross-overs would be in the game imo), recolours, etc. I don't agree with exclusive items and the fact item ideas/design/concepts are being made just for mogstation doesn't sounds good or right to me. SO, you may agree with it or not, but that's how I feel and I'm glad that you feel that way and aren't afraid like I do, be happy with your mount.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SagaSoluna View Post
    The amount of self-entitlement and nothing but wild speculation from the anti-mooglestation side is unbearable.
    Unbearable? You're a bit hyperbolic and provoke-y here with the language and format choices. I see you've already gotten someone to rise to it. Raising blood pressure doesn't really help the conversation, but whatevs.

    Your entire arguments are nothing but wild guesses and negative, baseless conclusions on what you think that is actually happening within closed doors.
    Let's be fair for a moment.

    It's not entirely baseless to bring up the instant leveling. Yoshida brought it up himself. I can dismiss it as musing or idle thought, but he said it. That's not baseless.

    Overall and right now SE is trending in a pretty sane path (for me at least) when it comes to the cash shop. So like you, I don't see doom and gloom a'comin. I'm not bothered by people who don't like it though.
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  3. #353
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melorie View Post
    See, you may not agree with me and have your opinion and I can think that you're wrong, just like you may think that I'm wrong. There's nothing horrible in that. It happens.
    In that we are in agreement. I have no desire or ability to police your opinions. But you are using your entitlement to an opinion as a cudgel to attack other posters on this forum, including personal attacks against another poster based solely on their disagreement with your opinion on game philosophy. And you are using it as a shield to basically say you are above reproach on account of being a "customer." We can disagree with one another and still be civil.
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  4. #354
    Player SagaSoluna's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melorie View Post
    since you're so sensible about people not agreeing with you. Got it? I hope so because I'm starting to get tired of explaining the same thing over and over again.
    Quote Originally Posted by Chalbee View Post
    But you are using your entitlement to an opinion as a cudgel to attack other posters on this forum. And you are using it as a shield to basically say you are above reproach on account of being a "customer."
    My problem is not that "You disagree with me" but that you seem to think that your opinion is untouchable on the ground of being a customer, just like Chalbee explains.
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  5. #355
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melorie View Post
    be happy with your mount.
    Thank you, but I don't actually have it nor do I have plans to buy it at this point in time. I can't afford to spend money on cosmetic digital items, exclusive or not.

    It doesn't bug me because I feel the sub fee offers enough unique mount options as it is and I still haven't been able to grind them all and keep up with new releases. Still need the bomb mount, goobbue, dandelion and the tank lion at least, lol. If I was still riding the same old magitek, now that would be a different story and would probably question why we're not getting anything new.
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  6. #356
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chalbee View Post
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    If I offended anyone, then I'm sorry it wasn't my intention. I never said that Saga is a bad worker, I just said that I'm glad that his mindset is not the mindset of the company. Is that a personal offense? I find it okay to disapprove someone's vision. Does that mean that he's a terrible person? Nope. Is that a personal attack? Because I think that it's part of the discussion. If that's a offense for him, then again, sorry? Not my intention, but we clearly don't agree what personal offenses are, and as I said I have no crystal ball to know his values about what is an offense and what isn't.

    I'm being civil. I don't need to be extremely cutesy and gentle to express my point with people that keeps insisting of how I am probably being fallacious just because they don't agree with me.

    Quote Originally Posted by SagaSoluna View Post
    My problem is not that "You disagree with me" but that you seem to think that your opinion is untouchable on the ground of being a customer, just like Chalbee explains.
    It's not. But sorry, you weren't the one that could convince that I'm wrong. Doesn't mean that you can't think different from me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
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    I also think that the game isn't lacking in items. But yes I would prefer a recolour of it in the future instead of it being right into the mogstation. I am afraid of the exclusive items pattern, and while the game haven't been affected by that yet, doesn't makes me think that it's less dangerous.
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    Last edited by Melorie; 07-28-2016 at 04:35 AM.

  7. #357
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    *wailing, gnashing teeth* Damn you Cash Shop, Damn you all to Hell!
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  8. #358
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yallaid View Post
    *wailing, gnashing teeth* Damn you Cash Shop, Damn you all to Hell!
    I like the cut of your jib. Tell me more, adorable lala!
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  9. #359
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    Quote Originally Posted by SagaSoluna View Post
    My problem is not that "You disagree with me" but that you seem to think that your opinion is untouchable on the ground of being a customer, just like Chalbee explains.
    Would you like a mirror? *continues to eat popcorn*
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  10. #360
    Player SagaSoluna's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zigabar View Post
    Would you like a mirror? *continues to eat popcorn*
    It´s not really the same.
    I have stated that some poster´s opinions were nothing but wild speculations, which is a fact and matches the dictionary description of the word speculation.

    Offer me a mirror when i claim that my opinions are untouchable or that they are the absolute truth on the subject at hand.
    So far, i did not do so, i merely discarded someone else´s opinions as invalid.

    Close, but no cigar, Zigabar.
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