Companies - You're Locked in for Life!

[Altera]

[QUOTE=darkstarpoet1;377509]the question is what is there to think about at this point? say the companies when they start releasing class specific gear for each city. if grid started with the original release on thm gear i may want to drop my alliance with uldah and switch to grid because thm/blm is my main.

I have no idea what class of Con / Thm gets Blm job. But considering BLM in all previous FF and even Lost Odyssey. The magic listed in Black has always been elementals. Light and Dark magic has been listed in Prismatic or something else to my knowledge. And Con have Ancient Magic. Taking this into consideration, i wouldnt be surprised if Thm turns out to be a Whm/Rdm. And Con becomes Blm/Whm. Unless Square Enix turns a 180 on us and disregards years of what has been a mainstay in their Final Fantasy series.

Just my thoughts on this issue and the reason I chose Twin Adder for having Con gear/guild.

[Jennestia]

I suppose it's personal preference, but I will take freedom of choice and gameplay over lore and storyline any day.

I'm guessing this is why storyline in games have been pretty bad lately. Yes it's a game, yes you play but why do you think Metal Gear Solid and (popular RPGs here) were indeed so popular? It wasn't gameplay alone. Though to merit, MMORPGs outside of FFXI and FFXIV barely even gave you a storyline.

[Tempestmoon]

I suppose it's personal preference, but I will take freedom of choice and game play over lore and storyline any day. If I want a good story I'll read a book. When I sit down to play a game, reading huge walls of text and watching a non-interactive cutscene isn't something that interests me.

wow, I think you should un-install the game and move on then, because this is Final fantasy. story is one of the, if not the only reason FF fans buy the games. SE is the best story tellers around. That's what makes their games so popular. Mature people that want an adventure, intrigue and heavy heavy plot.

[Rutelor]

Delirium I would like to know what game you ever played that offered you what you want. Even with the current setup with 1.19 FFXIV gives you more freedom then any other mmo to date by a long a shot. (simply being able to not level alts is a drastic improvement over other mmos in this respect)

I have yet to play a mmo that has unlimited freedom and flexibility to do everything. Honestly I have never played a game videogame or otherwise that has those qualities.

WoW you have a split with factions.
Rift Copied wow with the same split.
ToR will have 2 sides that cannot interact.
FFXI had restricted quest based on race and city
XIV has restricted storyline based on city/company

It is sorta a mmo thing. This whole I bought it so I deserve it thing is complete non-sense. You where given a choice live with it or reroll basically (that is what every other mmo in creation makes you do). Buying the game does not give you any rights, it give you access to play the game... the devs and the game owe you as the player nothing but access to the game. ATM there is nothing in the game stopping you from playing 3 character and experiencing everything, so there for SE gave you the ability to experiencing the whole game that you paid for.

Well said! And I'm glad you replied to Delirium, because I'm so tired of his/her whining about wanting to do everything with no effort and for no fee, that I surely would've been much less kind than you were. I'm still reeling from her/his thread asking that payment be removed from the airship travel system.

Only one further point, however, to add to your well stated post: Most games of progression (not only in the video category) are fundamentally about obstacle and limitation management. Hence most RPG, MMOs, Strategy Games, and so on, will continue the tradition of tying your legs for the race, or making you keep an egg on a spoon you hold in your mouth as you stride forward.

Without hurdles, you won't have the degree of satisfaction that vanquishing an obstacle gives you. By keeping these hurdles in, games reflect the human predicament that makes us fundamentally partialized, flawed and limited beings. That reverberates profoundly, creating the possibility that the game will become transcendental. Go and Chess, just to name two, did. And they became metaphors of the human condition, and ways to celebrate it. I look forward to the day enlightened video game design will give us something equivalent and new, in an electronic format.

R

[Vahzl]

I suppose it's personal preference, but I will take freedom of choice and gameplay over lore and storyline any day. If I want a good story I'll read a book. When I sit down to play a game, reading huge walls of text and watching a non-interactive cutscene isn't something that interests me.

I believe you may have misclicked on amazon when purchasing FFXIV. I believe you intended to purchase this:

http://www.amazon.com/Call-Duty-Mode...8088833&sr=8-3

[Blarp]

wow, I think you should un-install the game and move on then, because this is Final fantasy. story is one of the, if not the only reason FF fans buy the games. SE is the best story tellers around. That's what makes their games so popular. Mature people that want an adventure, intrigue and heavy heavy plot.

Why? I didn't care about the FFXI storyline either and I played it for five years loving every moment. The storylines are all the same. Ordinary guy ends up in extraordinary position with untapped potential. Usually followed by the typical flavor of FF characters; angsty teen turns brave, whacky girl, stern father figure, tragic hero, token minority, anti-hero who finds his humanity, and more-than-meets-the-eye villain. They embark on a journey to save the world from some peril, someones love interest dies, and it's resolved with a happy ending. Oh, and there's crystals. Maybe that type of story interests someone, but I've read and watched it unfold too many times to care.

Maturity has nothing to do with taste. I find most video game storylines to be distasteful. I play them to interact with other people. The story of interacting with real people is always more interesting to me than the pre-written story that the devlelopers want me to follow.

[Vahzl]

Why? I didn't care about the FFXI storyline either and I played it for five years loving every moment. The storylines are all the same. Ordinary guy ends up in extraordinary position with untapped potential. Usually followed by the typical flavor of FF characters; angsty teen turns brave, whacky girl, stern father figure, tragic hero, token minority, anti-hero who finds his humanity, and more-than-meets-the-eye villain. They embark on a journey to save the world from some peril, someones love interest dies, and it's resolved with a happy ending. Oh, and there's crystals. Maybe that type of story interests someone, but I've read and watched it unfold too many times to care.

Maturity has nothing to do with taste. I find most video game storylines to be distasteful. I play them to interact with other people. The story of interacting with real people is always more interesting to me than the pre-written story that the devlelopers want me to follow.

The FFXI story was incredible, and would love to see you do it better.

[Blarp]

The FFXI story was incredible, and would love to see you do it better.

It's personal preference. I never claimed to be a writer or that I could write a better story. I can certainly be disinterested by a story though. I really enjoy Roger Zelazny. You may think his work is absolute garbage. That's fine. Everybody has different opinions. I didn't really care about the FFXI story one way or the other. I cared about the people I met and the stuff we did together.

I'm not trying to insult you lol. We disagree. It's cool.

[Jennestia]

The FFXI story was incredible, and would love to see you do it better.

I'm pretty sure he's basically saying storylines is the last thing he plays an MMORPG for.

[Rutelor]

I think we have plenty of evidence that developers are far from oblivious of this concern, having reassured us repeatedly that we should just join the company that appeals to us on the basis of story line and aesthetics, and not out of fears of being locked out of gear or other type of availability. Like with all decisions in life, there will be some pluses and some minuses stemming from this one. I am sure, however, it's now evident the developers are trying to balance those, so that advantages and disadvantages are equitable across the board.