I am disappointed with Deep Dungeon

[Masekase_Hurricane]

One way to make it interesting is instead of making random mob floors, make floors based on mob type undead etc. Then give classes a skill that strengthens them to kill certain mobs i.e Dark gets bonus damage for hitting undead/plantoids/cursed etc . Add mechanics like this floor is strong to blunt damage/slashing or this floor is strong to magical damage. This way it still keeps all classes relevant.

[Evumeimei]

I suspect the difficulty is going to ramp up pretty quickly. This content is also something everyone can access independent of Heavensward. I haven't tried leveling my alt there quite yet other than trying it out solo with her. Just too much to do these days but I'll go back and give it a whirl and see how that goes. I may try a different role like white mage (she's a black mage) and see how quickly I can level her up when playing.

Yeah. Looking forward to the next floors. I will try to solo it just for fun (or duo it with a friend of mine). I plan to get my WHM to 60 through PotD.

[Leigaon]

I can see how people could be disappointed in the content. It has its thrills, though thinking about it and the scope of the game they can only make it so difficult. I think they took small steps but can expand from there...

I was expecting puzzles as well but in the end I feel that after running it so many times people will either memorize the answers or look them up. Since there could only be so many you can implement, and with the rate people spam the content, it would becoming less of a fun challenge and more of a hassle for those who don't take their time and want to get in and out (which seems to be a majority of the player base). Not saying it's a bad idea, I'm just saying anything you put in is essentially limited by something. There's always going to be a bottleneck to the process.

The monsters themselves aren't horrible so far but I do notice if you treat it like a dungeon, and try to pull all the rooms. Unless you're prepared you're going to have a bad time. We did one where the mob gave us silence for 20 seconds or so but then more spawned. We got hit and some died to dual manticores being fought with other mobs. Going in seeing HP / MP increase, or abilities unavailable was nice to see.

For me, it showed how much the defensive play style of this game is lacking. I was taking poison off of people but after a bit I figured, why bother? The no auto regen being disabled made me toss in a cure every now and then if we didn't have a tank. We got no abilities, but someone used an item and it was gone. Being blind didn't hinder us at all. Debuffs, and the need for esuna hasn't been so dire to use yet.

The bosses have potential but they are dying fast. We did one last night and he ran into the center to cast fear on the party, you knew what to do..well..some. Some got hit with it, but the guy was at 1% so..didn't matter.

It could be a wonderful way to introduce end-game mechanics from these bosses to make it hard. You can make the bosses random, but even then after so long you will know exactly what to expect. It all eventually goes into memorization, or someone telling you. I'd like to see Ex primals or their moves come into play. People still die from landslides, dive bombs are hated, or a Levi / Ramuh based one.

I like it so far..I can see where they could make it more difficult but also I see how things like Slow / Blind / Poison are very weak in the scope of the game.

[MeiUshu]

[QUOTE=WinterLuna;3788164]That's rich coming from someone who just wrote a condescending paragraph to a player for making a comment to you on a public forum.[/QUOT

The more you comment in that tone, WinterLuna, the more it invalidates your comments and opinions and reinforces the post of Snugglebutt who is totally correct in his answer to you and all the way... If you have a comment to make to him about his other thread...I suggest you go and post there.

Lets keep this uhmm post of yours on track...as, at least to me, is always interesting to see what were the expectations of people on this topic especially when SE described at lenght what to expect in there, prior or the day it was release, so why you are disappointed about what you found in there when you went in there with prior knowledge to what to expect is beyond me.

Maybe you can explain ????

[WinterLuna]

why you are disappointed about what you found in there when you went in there with prior knowledge to what to expect is beyond me.

Maybe you can explain ????

Wait.. what? People are allowed to dislike something just because they knew what it entailed. By your logic, everyone should like everything in the game and never complain because we already read about it in the patch notes. I have no idea why people are trying to use this as an argument against me being disappointed, it's absolutely ridiculous.

[MeiUshu]

read again....I asked you why you had expectations when you knew what to expect prior to go in there ?
that was my question

Whether you like it or not is not what is the purpose of my question. You can still like it or not without linking it to *your expections*

On a side note, his tone was not rude, Blunt ...not rude

[MagiusNecros]

Semantics children. Semantics. Stay on topic or lock the topic. Foolishness.

[FoxyAreku]

Try it without a healer. It gets pretty interesting with a team of 3 or 4 dps, you actually have to abuse phoenix downs and that (AMAZING) 20 second potion cooldown.

Overall I really like it, though it does take quite a time commitment to complete. Though if you wipe after being on a set of floors for almost an hour it's pretty discouraging.

There was one point we pulled a few things and one of the slimes just randomly exploded with no indicator and killed all of us. I haven't laughed that hard in this game in a really long time, I was so confused! XD

[Amariel34]

You know what would have been a neat idea for Deep Dungeon, if SE got permission from the creators? Making it like the games Dragons Lair and Dragons Lair 2. Just imagine THAT for a moment.

Here's a link where a youtuber talks about the games, for those that might not be familiar with them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5ug4ePqALs

And yes, that is actually THE Don Bluth in the video. Also if I can't post a link like this, please let me know so I can delete it and just put up the name of the video instead.

[Xiomara]

Went in with some friends and smashed out floors 1-30, and had a heap of fun, so this content is awesome. One thing that would make it better would be that you get a guaranteed +1 to both weapon and armor after every boss.