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    Dimitrii's Avatar
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    I do not believe you will actually be able to notice the difference/changes from the adjustments in point differentials yet from wins/losses until you reach gold. +25 for wins and -15 for losses sounds exactly the same as what we had last season in bronze and silver tiers. It wasn't until Gold that they started slapping you with the unfavorable weighted losses when compared to wins (stuff like +19 for wins and -29 for losses). Generally speaking, during bronze and silver tiers wins always netted you more points than losses subtracted from your rank after they made adjustments to it following the preseason which had like 95% of the player base stuck at bronze and silver.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimitrii View Post
    Generally speaking, during bronze and silver tiers wins always netted you more points than losses subtracted from your rank after they made adjustments to it following the preseason which had like 95% of the player base stuck at bronze and silver.
    Quote Originally Posted by Curty View Post
    Yep you need to wait to see what is like until we are gold+. Silver and below loss penalties have been very weak for a couple months now.
    Looking at it that way I guess you are both right. However Most of my platinum games I only lost 25 points as normal.



    So I am being cautiously optimistic now that the changes might be what I said they were. Will the changes mean that my loss above would've been less under the current system or are they just getting rid of the -31 losses? We will have to see.

    Quote Originally Posted by l---------------l View Post
    I don't like this change. I'll explain why, in a single line:

    It benefits those who play more than others.

    Not liking the explanation in single line? Going in detail.

    In season 1 I managed to be always rounding the top, solely relying in my winrate... I had like 4 times or three times LESS MATCHES than the other dudes of top.... But I was still there because holding a good victory rate made it possible. With these changes my victory rate will mean nothing and healers with 1000 matches and a 44% winrate will probably be over me if I just have 300 matches but with a 60% winrate.

    It's pointless, I hope in gold-ratings the losing for a balanced match would at least be of 25 again. I don't mind the trash tiers, but, gold and onward should be -25 per lose.


    Let's go even more damn simple... Yesterday in my datacenter there were already 3 silver. And people that achieved to get 50 matches.... Do you know how many did I achieve? Well, of course, working and not being weekend.... 0. Does this mean that if I play mostly the weekends, with current feast, I will not manage to get in top except if I have a nearly-impossible-to-get-in-solo winrate of 70% or more? Or not even that way?
    If you are a top player it should be easy for you to climb as other people climb the ladder. If you are a top player that is currently bronze then your matchmaking should be extremely favorable when you are paired with anyone who is higher up on the ladder. So you will still be on top with less games, and if I am right your occasional loss won't hamper your climb to the top as much.
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    Hey, sorry Aviars, just been too long since you where at bronze

    The point scoring for Bronze is the same as season 1. Bronze was +25 - 15 for standard match, that went to +25 - 20 for silver, and gold was +25 -25 (Interesting that you note Plat was still +25 -25)

    Hoping you are somewhat right, and we see gold not setting at a +25 -25.

    When we looked at early versions of the top 100, you saw a lot of people in the Silver/Gold tier that had sub 50% win % in season 1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamZ View Post
    Hey, sorry Aviars, just been too long since you where at bronze

    The point scoring for Bronze is the same as season 1. Bronze was +25 - 15 for standard match, that went to +25 - 20 for silver, and gold was +25 -25 (Interesting that you note Plat was still +25 -25)

    Hoping you are somewhat right, and we see gold not setting at a +25 -25.

    When we looked at early versions of the top 100, you saw a lot of people in the Silver/Gold tier that had sub 50% win % in season 1.
    Of course. I only thought of this because although I was platinum I wasn't getting hit with those massive 31 point losses as frequently as others have been claiming to be normal. So if they actually adjusted how much people lose for a loss I assumed it would be the same for all tiers. I mean if there won't be a change in gold+ then what did they change exactly? We will have to see I suppose.
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