Well dang, they actually listened. (Primal birds)

[Mature]

Thanks Yoship

[CrimsonThunder]

The mounts were a nice filler in 2.55 actually the only thing I had to do. Considering I traded my 250 ravy token just now for GC seals OK ravy will be some farm but the moment they add Sepp n Niddy to that I won't even have to TRY to get them because I have token...
The farm used to be fun and timefiller which is now gone for me.
Also the feel of achieving is no longer there it's only grind that primal for 99 kills you will get a bird one way or another...

Getting a primal mount was never an achievement. It was difference between your luck and the guy next to you.

[Lambdafish]

The mounts were a nice filler in 2.55 actually the only thing I had to do. Considering I traded my 250 ravy token just now for GC seals OK ravy will be some farm but the moment they add Sepp n Niddy to that I won't even have to TRY to get them because I have token...
The farm used to be fun and timefiller which is now gone for me.
Also the feel of achieving is no longer there it's only grind that primal for 99 kills you will get a bird one way or another...

I kinda agree with this, but I also agree that adding the x99 was a good thing. They did it at the same time as increasing the drop rate, so eventually the birds will drop at the same rate as the current ponies, and I don't see people needing to farm x99 ponies in order to get that. The BIG problem I see for this is that they only added the first 3 primals (which is a good thing because staggering of content), yet the absence of the other two is only superficial as people now know that they will be there and can just save the x99 tokens until SE release the other birds (rendering the content staggering pointless)

[Zepla]

welp, now I know what I'm doing when I log in today. Thordan bird YES!

[Blackcanary]

Where do you get the tokens from?

[loreleidiangelo]

Where do you get the tokens from?

They go into your inventory automatically upon completion of the trial.

[Vaer]

The mounts were a nice filler in 2.55 actually the only thing I had to do. Considering I traded my 250 ravy token just now for GC seals OK ravy will be some farm but the moment they add Sepp n Niddy to that I won't even have to TRY to get them because I have token...
The farm used to be fun and timefiller which is now gone for me.
Also the feel of achieving is no longer there it's only grind that primal for 99 kills you will get a bird one way or another...

By the looks of it they only add it when the content is obsolete anyways. 99 kills is still quite a bit of farming/work. It's really just bad luck protection. Eventually the birds will drop so often and easy to clear in unsync (like the primal ponies now) having token turn ins won't even matter.

[Miste]

Getting a primal mount was never an achievement. It was difference between your luck and the guy next to you.

In one way it isn't but in another way it is.

I got a few of my birds with luck...but others I had to do close to 200 runs to finally win it. It does take a lot of effort if you try to battle the RNG to collect them all.

I consider it an achievement that right now I own all 5 birds they have added. I had to do 181 Sephirot to finally win it on the 16th bird I saw. I had to do 176 Ravana to win it on the 15th bird I saw. I had to do Nidhogg 103 times to win it on the 9th bird I saw.

Bismarck and Thordan I got lucky rolled 98 and 99 respectively on the first bird I saw drop for them. 34 runs and 2 runs which was obviously very lucky.

So in total I did 393 runs of all of them to get all 5 birds. That's a lot of work imo...so I consider it a personal achievement that I stuck with it to get them all even though they nerfed them now.

It isn't just luck...you might get lucky and you might not but if you want them bad enough and luck isn't on your side then it becomes a perseverance achievement. So just because someone has a bird doesn't mean they were just lucky...you never know how many runs they threw themselves at that primal to finally win one.

[KfLeX]

Just started Bex bird farming a few days ago and already tired of the rng, so this is good news.

[Zojha]

So in total I did 393 runs of all of them to get all 5 birds.

Aaand with the 99 tokens, you'd do 495 runs to get all 5 birds. Sounds...more than fair, really.

And yes, it is all luck - you "can" go a billion times and never even see it drop, let alone win the roll. You "can" have it drop on your first clear and win. RNG is never an achievement.
I agree that perseverance is - but for that it doesn't matter if you were successful or not in the end. Your achievement are not the 5 birds, but the 393 runs. Anyone with any combination of birds and the same amount of runs achieved the same. Some are just more or less lucky than others, hence not the same amount of birds.