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  1. #4301
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    HyoMinPark's Avatar
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    Hyomin Park
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    Cactuar
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SpiritMuse View Post
    This hurts my heart as a DRK who does know what they're doing. I promise, we ARE out there...
    Oh, trust me. They were causing me physical pain as well. I main BRD and DRK so anytime I see DRKs like the ones that plagued the duty finder yesterday.... I just couldn't with one. I was like "Please, please, PLEASE re-evaluate your gear before you do any more dungeons!"
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  2. #4302
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    ForteNightshade's Avatar
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Cactuar
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    Paladin Lv 100
    This is gonna be shocking, but I ran the Vault with a friend because it was his first time through (he hasn't been on in like a year or so), and I was healer, he was blackmage. Everyone was nice, understanding and waited for me to actually explain stuff to him! Shocker I know but it exists. Oh joyus day. Funny part was I kept telling him to stop running into the damn horses on Zerg. He made some snide comments at me and I just told him "Dead" :P
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    "Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters."
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  3. #4303
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    Mysterysword's Avatar
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    Siesta Fiesta
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    Coeurl
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by revonine View Post
    Hell Wind occurs so naturally the main tank drops dead immediately (seriously guys Stoneskin or Aldo the MT) and suddenly I'm like crap I'm tanking Forgall as a Monk, I re position him facing away from the raid, I shout to my healing buddy over skype what's happening and he pumps heals into me to keep me alive (and I throw in a Bloodbath and Mantra as good measure) for about 2 minutes until another tank just decides to take him off me.
    Pretty sure Hell Wind goes straight through Stoneskin/Galvanize/Nocturnal Sect Aspected Benefic and Helios. The only way to get through it is mass AoE healing, nothing else.
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  4. #4304
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    Singularity's Avatar
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    Ariane Aster
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    It does, but I think it does not remove shields? Hell Wind never kills anyone, it just sets everyone's HP to some single-digit number. The autoattack that follows is what kills the tank. That's what you have to prevent - either with shields or with fast healing.
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  5. #4305
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    Selli Noblesse
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    Gilgamesh
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    Tbh, the easiest way to deal with Hell Wind while MTing is to pop your big cooldown (Hallowed Ground/Living Dead/Holmgang). I just find it easier to save my own life than rely on someone else... especially someone I don't know.
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  6. #4306
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    Taika's Avatar
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    Purple Rain
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    Sophia
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    Arcanist Lv 32
    Quote Originally Posted by Mysterysword View Post
    Pretty sure Hell Wind goes straight through Stoneskin/Galvanize/Nocturnal Sect Aspected Benefic and Helios. The only way to get through it is mass AoE healing, nothing else.
    Yeah, it goes through. But the best thing to do is to instant heal the tank (with Benediction / Lustrates / Tetra / Essential Dignity) right after the hit. There's no other incoming AoE damage in a while so the rest of the party can wait a bit until the tank is safe again.
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  7. #4307
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    Ebonwings's Avatar
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    Ebonwings Drakostorm
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by SpiritMuse View Post
    This hurts my heart as a DRK who does know what they're doing. I promise, we ARE out there...
    Not just you I die inside too to stories of bad DRK ;-; I'll pop into roullete as DRK to bring its name back up again ! Once I got home @.@
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  8. #4308
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    Aldora's Avatar
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    C'rysta Zeith
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    Sargatanas
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    Archer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Mysterysword View Post
    Pretty sure Hell Wind goes straight through Stoneskin/Galvanize/Nocturnal Sect Aspected Benefic and Helios. The only way to get through it is mass AoE healing, nothing else.
    It goes straight through Hallowed Ground too. It's like Singularity said, it brings everyone down to a 1 digit HP, but doesn't kill anyone with that particular skill. It's the autoattack that follows that kills tanks if they are not carefull. So, as a Paladin, i always use Hallowed Ground at the last possible second (with a calculated margin for the animation to finish and actually applying the invincibility buff) so that the boss doesn't kill me with the auto attack that follows. Immediatly after Hell Wind, i would use Clemency on boths healers, healing myself in the process.

    I don't really play a Warrior or Dark Knight, but as far as i can tell, a warrior could use Holmgang right before Hell Wind goes off and the Dark Knight could use Living Dead. That way they should survive the next auto attack as well.

    PS: Selli beat me to it. (^_^; )

    Quote Originally Posted by Selli View Post
    Tbh, the easiest way to deal with Hell Wind while MTing is to pop your big cooldown (Hallowed Ground/Living Dead/Holmgang). I just find it easier to save my own life than rely on someone else... especially someone I don't know.
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  9. #4309
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    Mysterysword's Avatar
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    Siesta Fiesta
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    Coeurl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldora View Post
    It goes straight through Hallowed Ground too. It's like Singularity said, it brings everyone down to a 1 digit HP, but doesn't kill anyone with that particular skill.
    Oh, I know exactly what it does, although not sure if the damage it does is based on your max or current HP. Think it would be the latter, though.

    That said, I wouldn't pop Holmgang as WAR, especially since Brand of the Fallen comes right after Hell Wind, and if you're not in stacking position, well. I've never found it necessary for a tank to pop their invincibility skill, though; usually the healers spamming AoE heals are enough to let the tank live before the auto-attack.

    Also, a PLD could just as easily pop Divine Veil instead of Hallowed Ground. All you really need to is survive one hit, and if the healers are worth their salt, they're already precasting their AoE heals when Hell Wind is casting.
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    Last edited by Mysterysword; 07-15-2016 at 06:01 AM.

  10. #4310
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    Moomba33's Avatar
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    Eva Gamirdren
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    Ultros
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    Archer Lv 100
    Divine Veil only puts a shield on party members, not the PLD itself.
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