SIGN if you Hate PVP GC Restriction & Want Change

[Kurogaea]

Signed. Didn't notice this post before, glad someone found it, this is still an annoying issue.

[Stormrider]

Another mode added. But now you can see how many people are in que. Regularly I can sit in que for hours with 24+ other people. Funny how that works. No class requirement and 24 people can't get a game started. Also obligatory

[Rakiria]

definitely signed. Had a friend switsch gc to pvp together, so he had to rank up wich is pretty boring work for the first few ranks plus lost all his pvp ranks. Gladly he didn't play a lot of pvp before, otherwise it would have been even more bothersome.

[Jimjo]

OP has 357 positive votes at the moment. Please make it happen.

[moleverine]

I would love to see this. In fact, I'd love to play Frontlines, but I've never been willing to sit through the queue times. I imagine not having to find people from three separate pools would help with this.

[WinterLuna]

I probably commented this a long time ago but I'm commenting again, this needs to be done already. I am sick and tired of the GC restriction. We can't play with our friends, I'm stuck with the same trolls who enter PvP unless I change my GC which isn't fair, my queues are either slower or faster than other players due to GC which also isn't fair on anybody, and if we do decide to change GC's, it costs gil, we have to get promoted multiple times to reach max rank again, our PvP rank resets, and we're stuck with a GC we may or may not like purely for PvP reasons.

It was a nice idea to combine PvP with GC's but it really doesn't work. It's annoying, frustrating and even puts people off PvP. I also hate the fact these issues seem to dissappear from people's minds as soon as the new PvP content becomes old. This needs to be addressed now, please SE.

[Theodric]

I'm often in the mood to dip into PvP for the sake of mixing things up from time to time - yet I don't bother because the queues are abysmal and I loathe the idea of switching GC's to whatever happens to have the 'fastest' queues of the trio.

[Welsper59]

I would love to see this. In fact, I'd love to play Frontlines, but I've never been willing to sit through the queue times. I imagine not having to find people from three separate pools would help with this.

Just as an FYI, the queue times wouldn't improve much at all, where it'd perhaps maybe shorten a 3hr queue to 2hrs. Differences that might be significant by the numbers, but hardly impacting in practice. When/If they change it, sure, it'll be much better queue times... just like how it was when Siege and The Feast was released. Damn near instant for some. The thing that people don't consider is time itself. The older it becomes, the more time people have spent burning themselves out on it. Time that was used to fester loathing for your teammates lol.

While I'm for the removal of the restriction at this point, I feel it necessary to point out that queue times are not a strong or meaningful reason for it with this game. FFXIV just does not have a strong PvP community foundation, thus it won't be popular for the general playerbase. The FF name itself is a representation of that fact, since it's never been about competing with other players. This is unlike other games, such as WoW, which have almost nothing but a history of PvP from its RTS days. There are great PvP players among us, not to mention diehard players within, but they're not enough to make it a consistent drop in queue times for most/all hours of the day.

What the removal does do is allow for people to finally queue with all their friends or have an easier time forming pre-made pugs. You bring back the ability to strengthen bonds between the players, something that is possible but severely limited with the GC restriction. I do recognize the negative point within that statement, however. Pre-made groups being made easier (but not easy enough that just anyone will find themselves part of one) can absolutely kill the enjoyment to be found. It's not exactly new to FFXIV though, given how pre-made groups are a thing, so that worry, while valid, isn't meaningful.

[Stormrider]

Just as an FYI, the queue times wouldn't improve much at all, where it'd perhaps maybe shorten a 3hr queue to 2hrs.

I tend to disagree with your point about the ques. The system only needs 24 random 60 classes to get a pop. It also does not need all 24 to even enter to start the game. It should greatly reduce time spent in que. I don't think you understand the amount of players that sit in dead ques with no pops. Now this won't fix dead times of the day. Also while getting stomped by 8 people in voip is no fun. The more of them queing the more pops for 16 other people.

You also are not taking into consideration that when a premade team of 8 ques they bump anyone from getting into that game. If 8 adders from Jenova que and get instant pops all night and the system says less then 5 mins and you get ZERO games. They would in fact be helping and you would get more games. Instead of currently bumping you into purgatory que.


Lastly, while I am not sure I would hope this might fix dead lobbies people get put into. Instead of making a new team around the 8 adders that are needed to start a new game. It checks how many people are in que 27 bang it fills 3 parties and starts a 4th. 70 it starts 8 parties and waits for the ninth to fill after 5 mins it breaks into 2 games and waits for the next match to fill.

[Casmir_Chev]

Signed, it is makign Frontlines content impossible to enjoy! SE pelase listen to your customers!!!!