Will there be more attire of Story NPC via Mog Station?

[KokonoeAiyoko]

The system is already in place, I'm going with the realistic approach here. It's unrealistic for me to create a thread asking for them to change a system already in place, and whilst asking if they are adding more costumes.

If you guys wish for a policy change in how they do these outfits, I'd suggest creating another thread doing that.

[Alberel]

The system is already in place, I'm going with the realistic approach here. It's unrealistic for me to create a thread asking for them to change a system already in place, and whilst asking if they are adding more costumes.

If you guys wish for a policy change in how they do these outfits, I'd suggest creating another thread doing that.

It's unrealistic for you to ask for new content to be developed and implemented as paid for by your subscription?

Do you actively ask retail stores to charge you more for things when you get to the checkout? Because that's what this thread is doing...

[Greedalox]

It's unrealistic for you to ask for new content to be developed and implemented as paid for by your subscription?

Do you actively ask retail stores to charge you more for things when you get to the checkout? Because that's what this thread is doing...

The things is, you're acting as if glamour based micro transactions are a new thing (In P2P or F2P MMO's) when it's been a successful model for many. So while you as a consumer may think it's unfair that you have to pay extra for the pretty dress, it's unrealistic to expect the business model to change. There's 2 courses of action that can happen reasonably, 1) Most players stop using the cash shop or 2) accept it. At this point 1 is not happening, so to answer your question- Yes it's unrealistic. It sucks, sure, but OP was merely pitching skin ideas to a medium where they'd likely occur.

[Alberel]

The things is, you're acting as if glamour based micro transactions are a new thing (In P2P or F2P MMO's) when it's been a successful model for many. So while you as a consumer may think it's unfair that you have to pay extra for the pretty dress, it's unrealistic to expect the business model to change. There's 2 courses of action that can happen reasonably, 1) Most players stop using the cash shop or 2) accept it. At this point 1 is not happening, so to answer your question- Yes it's unrealistic. It sucks, sure, but OP was merely pitching skin ideas to a medium where they'd likely occur.

I agree with what you're saying but I think you're missing the point. A business transaction generally works on the premise that the seller charges as much for it as they can and the buyer pays as little as they can, with the outcome being a compromise between the two parties. People such as the OP going straight to asking to be charged for something that by all respects could be offered as part of our subscriptions is the equivalent of going into a transaction and asking to be charged more for it. This behaviour encourages the sellers to become greedy and start charging higher and higher prices. It also makes them more likely to prioritise the cash shop over 'free' content as part of the subscription.

The reason the OP is asking for it to be in the cash shop is because they are impatient and think that requesting it there makes it more likely to be implemented sooner. They could simply ask for it to be implemented at all and let SE decide where to release it though. Resorting straight to asking for it to be sold in the cash shop is like throwing out every bargaining strategy you have without any reason. It's just pure anti-consumer.

I don't think anyone here is arguing against the cash shop's existence at this point. We would, however, prefer that as little as possible were sold in the cash shop instead of being made available in-game. The comments in this thread are largely to ensure that SE realises there are far more people here that would oppose the release of any such future content in the cash shop. We've seen what happens in other games when the cash shop gets out of hand and we've seen such outcomes completely destroy game communities. A regular, vocal resistance to the cash shop on these forums serves to remind SE not to risk such a fate for this game, and thus responses like those above will continue to appear on every thread requesting anything be added to the cash shop.

[KitingGenbu]

The system is already in place, I'm going with the realistic approach here. It's unrealistic for me to create a thread asking for them to change a system already in place, and whilst asking if they are adding more costumes.

If you guys wish for a policy change in how they do these outfits, I'd suggest creating another thread doing that.

A system where things were already charged before we had a chance to get it in game before it was put in the CS? That's news to me since they didn't really have many CS exclusive stuff there until this year. Companies test the waters to see how consumers react. Blindly assuming things will be a single way is just like a lamb being led to slaughter.

[KokonoeAiyoko]

It's unrealistic for you to ask for new content to be developed and implemented as paid for by your subscription?

Do you actively ask retail stores to charge you more for things when you get to the checkout? Because that's what this thread is doing...

Yes, it is. First of all, I'm already asking for something as is, and there currently is a system in place that makes Square Enix profit that is popular, so in other words, good business for them and good business for the fans except for those who do not wish to pay additional prices for optional services.

Would you complain about additional retainers as well? Those cannot be obtained via in-game and only with real cash. Just because you pay monthly for a subscription doesn't mean you are entitled to everything there is to offer. Glamour doesn't hinder your progress in-game, nor does it give you anything of true benefit outside of your own subjective opinion on looking cool in said outfit. The outfits themselves are honestly kind of special looking as is, and aren't really intended for us to be wearing them persay. I think charging for them benefits the consumer and the company.

Your analogy here actually makes no sense because there is no guarantee you are suppose to obtain every single thing the game has to offer with your subscription. All you are entitled to is your subscription to connect to a server and use their data to create a character and interact on your account. If you purchase a 3 topping pizza, it doesn't entitle you to a 4th topping unless you pay an additional fee.

[Alberel]

Yes, it is. First of all, I'm already asking for something as is, and there currently is a system in place that makes Square Enix profit that is popular, so in other words, good business for them and good business for the fans except for those who do not wish to pay additional prices for optional services.

Would you complain about additional retainers as well? Those cannot be obtained via in-game and only with real cash. Just because you pay monthly for a subscription doesn't mean you are entitled to everything there is to offer. Glamour doesn't hinder your progress in-game, nor does it give you anything of true benefit outside of your own subjective opinion on looking cool in said outfit. The outfits themselves are honestly kind of special looking as is, and aren't really intended for us to be wearing them persay. I think charging for them benefits the consumer and the company.

Your analogy here actually makes no sense because there is no guarantee you are suppose to obtain every single thing the game has to offer with your subscription. All you are entitled to is your subscription to connect to a server and use their data to create a character and interact on your account. If you purchase a 3 topping pizza, it doesn't entitle you to a 4th topping unless you pay an additional fee.

You're actually arguing this from SE's perspective? If you want to give them money that badly just buy shares in the company and leave it at that. Our subscription entitles us to as much as SE feels they need to give us for that subscription to remain worth it. If they gave us no content for the money we're paying the game would die overnight, so please don't try to pretend the subscription is solely for server access; it is for the continued development of the game and you well know it. The additional retainers don't bother me because they're additional. We already get two for free and two is plenty for most players. It's only hoarders and hardcore crafters that really feel a need for the extras. They've already confirmed we're getting additional storage space for free in 4.0 as well.

If you purchase a three topping pizza it doesn't entitle you to a fourth topping, no. But if you pay a subscription for all-you-can-eat pizza buffet then I think you're perfectly entitled to request a new topping be added as part of that subscription. It is your analogy that doesn't make sense as you are not just 'buying a pizza'.

If you so desperately want to give SE your money please just go and buy shares in the company. You won't of course, because you don't actually care about SE making money. You just want your glamour ASAP so you demand it be in the cash shop so it happens sooner. If they implemented it in game in the next patch for free would you come to the forums and complain because you didn't get to pay the devs for it? No, you wouldn't. So why are you arguing so hard to be able to pay them more money than you already do?

[KokonoeAiyoko]

You're actually arguing this from SE's perspective? If you want to give them money that badly just buy shares in the company and leave it at that. Our subscription entitles us to as much as SE feels they need to give us for that subscription to remain worth it. If they gave us no content for the money we're paying the game would die overnight, so please don't try to pretend the subscription is solely for server access; it is for the continued development of the game and you well know it. The additional retainers don't bother me because they're additional. We already get two for free and two is plenty for most players. It's only hoarders and hardcore crafters that really feel a need for the extras. They've already confirmed we're getting additional storage space for free in 4.0 as well.

If you purchase a three topping pizza it doesn't entitle you to a fourth topping, no. But if you pay a subscription for all-you-can-eat pizza buffet then I think you're perfectly entitled to request a new topping be added as part of that subscription. It is your analogy that doesn't make sense as you are not just 'buying a pizza'.

If you so desperately want to give SE your money please just go and buy shares in the company. You won't of course, because you don't actually care about SE making money. You just want your glamour ASAP so you demand it be in the cash shop so it happens sooner. If they implemented it in game in the next patch for free would you come to the forums and complain because you didn't get to pay the devs for it? No, you wouldn't. So why are you arguing so hard to be able to pay them more money than you already do?

I truly love how this has turned into a personal attack against me over stating that them receiving money benefits the company more. You are really quite immature about this whole thing to assume all of these assumptions you are having about me just now. I won't stoop to your level, but I will refute your points.

You're actually arguing this from SE's perspective?

This is their game, isn't it? There is a side to every party in this situation. If something is benefitting them whilst not being a detriment, and a lot of people are happy about the implementation, do you really think SE should just stop after creating this entire system of purchasing Optional Items?

Would you truly ask a company to stop making successful business decisions that consumers actually utilize? If that is the case, you are being unrealistic.

If you purchase a three topping pizza it doesn't entitle you to a fourth topping, no. But if you pay a subscription for all-you-can-eat pizza buffet then I think you're perfectly entitled to request a new topping be added as part of that subscription. It is your analogy that doesn't make sense as you are not just 'buying a pizza'.

There is a colossal misunderstanding here. The subscription is not an all you can eat buffet, and it never has been. You have to purchase A Realm Reborn, Special Edition 1, Heavensward, Special Edition 2, Fantasia Potions, and Additional Retainers all at a separate cost, and half of those I just listed have been there since the beginning of this game. Square Enix never implied, nor said, that you would obtain everything via your subscription.

If this truly was an "all you can eat buffet", none of these systems would've been in.

If you so desperately want to give SE your money please just go and buy shares in the company. You won't of course, because you don't actually care about SE making money. You just want your glamour ASAP so you demand it be in the cash shop so it happens sooner.

You not only assume I do not care about Square Enix making money, you also assume I am desperate to give them money. Like, desperate. Really? To be quite honest here, judging by how you've responded so far, my assumption of you right now is that you are lashing at me out of desperation because my viewpoint is different than yours. To me, that sounds "desperate".

You just want your glamour ASAP so you demand it be in the cash shop so it happens sooner.

First off, the system is already in place. There is not a single Main Scenario full attire set you can obtain outside of the Mog Station.

Do you realistically think that Square Enix is going just going to change how they release Main Scenario NPC attire sets just because I add that they should when they have a system in place (once again) that's profitable to them and consumers enjoy? I am working with how they do business, and I truly doubt they would change this system because of one thread on this forum. And at that point, I truly do not give two flying fat chocobo's if they continue with the current system and I have to utilize money for optional NPC outfits.

It does not bother me in the slightest as I understand why they do this. Disagree? That's perfectly fine, but I am absolutely entitled to my view.

If they implemented it in game in the next patch for free would you come to the forums and complain because you didn't get to pay the devs for it? No, you wouldn't. So why are you arguing so hard to be able to pay them more money than you already do?

Arguing so hard? Another assumption. I am merely refuting your points as you came into my thread and changed the subject and made it a new topic which I did not plan on happening.

Would I come on this forum and post about it? Probably not. But this is a request, and I'm not going to request something as trivial as a NPC outfit without it being in their favor in some way, and by that I mean them going out of their way to spend time on a trivial outfit. I rather spend money at the chance they do release it then hoping they just set aside dev resources for a free item.

[Ophie-Mio]

The system is already in place, I'm going with the realistic approach here.

Hence why I agreed with you and backed you up. Unfortunately, everyone else is bemoaning the cash shop and how SE operates and using your thread as a platform for the same tired argument.