Remove Aetherochemical Research Facility from 60 Dungeon Roulette

[Alistaire]

TBH I only want to see ARF when queueing 60 roulette now....^^;
Actually if you get the previous expert dungeons which you ran daily, it will be more boring!

I think OP didn't know previously a lot of ppl would quit immediately when they got ARF, and affected the players needed to run it.
And why not moving it to MS roulette? It is because MS roulette is lv50 base.

Also if it was moved to MS roulette it'd be a different # of people in the ready check, so the moment you had someone back out you'd have a bunch of others doing the same. Basically party up with 1 other person, queue pops, 1 person confirms, tells 2nd if it's 4 or 8 people, 2nd person backs out if it's not the one they want.

tl;dr bad idea to put it in main story roulette.

[Critical-Limit]

I need the Esoterics for my 230 Whm relic.

I want a roulette, not a mindlessly boring forgone conclusion. regardless of it paying more Esoterics, the title of the Duty roulette is Duty ROULETTE. If it constantly spits the same dungeon over and over and over, it's not a roulette, it's crappy boring garbage.

It's just called roulette because you don't know what you're getting its not a roulette in the sense it's a % chance to get it.

Sorry if everyone who's farming Esos needs people to beat the dungeon you're gonna get it a lot. Just go run expert for lore or a expert specific dungeon and take that 5 lore loss that can be acquired from a single vath quest to make up for it.

It's roulette of who don't know who you're gone help. Rather than I'm gonna get a evenly distributed random dungeon.

The entire point of he bonus is to help others. Quit being so selfish

[DreamAngel-Ren]

I have noticed that too when I play the level 60 roulette, I end up getting ARF; I honestly don't like running that place because it's too long x_x.

[Ilan]

I have noticed that too when I play the level 60 roulette, I end up getting ARF; I honestly don't like running that place because it's too long x_x.

15-20 Minutes is long? Oo

[Elijahshane]

I don't mind the esoteric from it but I've honestly gotten it everyday for the past three weeks... a change would be nice at some point...

[revonine]

ARF is a story dungeon that is required to progress. Removing it from roulette would be a disaster.

[DreamAngel-Ren]

15-20 Minutes is long? Oo

When I go in there it's like it takes a long time to finally reach the final boss because they're so many trash mobs and they take a bit to kill. If the dungeon allowed 8 players to play, maybe killing the mobs wouldn't be such a drag.

[Ilan]

When I go in there it's like it takes a long time to finally reach the final boss because they're so many trash mobs and they take a bit to kill. If the dungeon allowed 8 players to play, maybe killing the mobs wouldn't be such a drag.

Its as fast as every other Level 60 Dungeon too. I wonder why people always think its longer than anything else.

[ErryK]

I run the roulette because I try to run all my roulettes every day.

OK, that's fair.

I run the roulette because it used to be fun to think, "I wonder if I'll get Pharos Sirius HM, or maybe the Anti-Tower." If I wanted Lore Tomestones, I'd run Hullbreaker or Sohr Khai. But I cap out Lore Tomestones easily just doing the Expert Roulette.

Oh wow, I didn't realize people ran roulettes to wonder if they got x or y dungeon... that's like getting into a car crash to wonder if you'll go to x or y hospital afterwards!

Right now, it's not fun to run Aetherochemical Research Facility. It's boring. The purpose of the Roulette has been subverted. There is no Roulette. It's like an 80% chance of getting Aetherochemical Research Facility. I don't want to take away people's ability to farm Eso's for their relics. Removing this one dungeon from the 60 Roulette and adding it to another Roulette wouldn't suddenly diminish the number of Eso's they get from running the dungeon. It just gives the rest of us the opportunity to enjoy the Roulette as it was designed to be.

"There is no roulette" Yeah no, I don't think you know the definition of a roulette. A roulette is random, and it also depends on whatever the roulette queue places you in. How do you know it's an 80% chance? It's not a flat 80% chance for everyone, bub. Just because it feels that way, it doesn't necessarily mean it's true. My group got ARF when all four of us were together in a party last night, and tonight we got Lost City, so at the point where you have 4/4, it's guaranteed to be random. But if you so say that it's an "80% chance" it's ARF, then there is no one to blame but yourself for going into it and 'knowing it's 80% ARF'...

Also, in regards of moving it to a different roulette, no, it wouldn't diminish it, however it would make 0 sense to move it to another one as 4-mans comply to being 'Dungeons', while Castrum and Praetorium are classified as dungeons, they are 8-man duties... and synced to work with 8-man Lv50 duties, so they have a roulette for their own.

Roulette doesn't change to 100%/80% chance just because it looks that way for you... unless you can give me the math that makes it so.

ARF is a story dungeon that is required to progress. Removing it from roulette would be a disaster.

Also, this. Removing it from roulette would mean no one would do it, because most people who queue for ARF are already in preformed parties.

[Dahlinea]

Just give a revamp to "Duty Roulette: Main Scenario" to allow it for 4 people to queue as welll and put ARF in there with rewards being distributed according to your level. This Roulette has been forgotten ever since ARR with no content updates.