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  1. #21
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    Maero's Avatar
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    Dancer Lv 90
    I don't know some of those i170 is it, HQ are really not that much behind in stats over the ironworks gear, to me the cost for a few extra points does not justify them, but i can see those of you who actually do alot of crafting it would be beneficial to go all out with ironworks.
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    Maria Nyan
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    It's actually pretty simple, if you need/want 430 CP for a certain rotation its worth it, otherwise its not. From my experience i've been using a 426CP one, so im skipping hte MH personally, but you could prob skip the two Rings, since the increase maxmelded is 1/1/1, bringing you down to 428. I would definetly NOT skip bracelet, earring and necklace, since 6CP makes a huge difference between beeing able to use a certain rotation or not.
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  3. #23
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    Aisha Nymph
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    Quote Originally Posted by MariaNyan View Post
    It's actually pretty simple, if you need/want 430 CP for a certain rotation its worth it, otherwise its not. From my experience i've been using a 426CP one, so im skipping hte MH personally, but you could prob skip the two Rings, since the increase maxmelded is 1/1/1, bringing you down to 428. I would definetly NOT skip bracelet, earring and necklace, since 6CP makes a huge difference between beeing able to use a certain rotation or not.
    but the MH is the most fabulous piece out of all the new equipment
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  4. #24
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    Blueberry Bandit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mature View Post
    It IS worth it. I have meld everything to the top (yes even over melding V) cause this is the last set until we get a new one ine June next year. The only thing I haven't craft is all the MH or OH cause im using the new scrips for them.

    CP is king so new accessories are totally worth it!
    Well I certainly don't see any point in melding the tools with 5 Grade V materia. You would need hundreds of materia, and hundreds more still if you were unlucky. Anything else is worth it though.
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    Last edited by DarthBuzzer; 07-07-2016 at 10:09 PM.

  5. #25
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    Colette Pascal
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mature View Post
    It IS worth it. I have meld everything to the top (yes even over melding V) cause this is the last set until we get a new one ine June next year. The only thing I haven't craft is all the MH or OH cause im using the new scrips for them.

    CP is king so new accessories are totally worth it!

    I thought the scrip tools had no CP, which means you are losing 8 CP by using those over the crafted ones.
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  6. #26
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    Lineage Razor
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    While I'm normally a proponent of future-proofing by melding to the max, I have to admit that the costs vs gains for maxing out accessories just aren't worth it. Adding a Tier V overmeld will gain you a grand total of THREE more Control, compared to just using Tier IVs.

    Rings: Craft V (11/10), CP IV (4/4), Control III (3/9), Control III (6/9), Control III (9/9)
    Ear/Neck/Wrist: Craft V (11/10), CP IV (4/8), CP IV (8/8), Control IV (4/9), Control IV (8/9)

    It's difficult to imagine that that three control is going to make enough of an impact to justify the average FIVE Tier V's you'd lose trying to Overmeld the second slot.

    Again, using nothing but a single Tier V per accessory, along with Tier III and IV overmelds, you can reach the caps for accessories, minus three control.
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  7. #27
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    Stouter Taru
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    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    Again, using nothing but a single Tier V per accessory, along with Tier III and IV overmelds, you can reach the caps for accessories, minus three control.
    That's if you put a Crafts V on first. If you start with a Control V, you can cap without overmelding any V.
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  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by StouterTaru View Post
    That's if you put a Crafts V on first. If you start with a Control V, you can cap without overmelding any V.
    Really? How so? What meld will cap out Craft 10, Control 9, CP 8, with only five materia, starting with a Control V? I'm pretty sure my math is right, but I'll be happy to stand corrected if you have a solution. Remember that Craft V provides 11 Craftsmanship, Control V provides 7 Control, and CP V provides 6 CP.
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  9. #29
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    Krystalan Deathgiver
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    Scholar Lv 80
    I dunno, I used the i55 accessories until 2 star crafting in heavensward, will likely do the same with the ironworks set, to save on short term replaceable upgrades while leveling and gearing out at max after next expansion. The investment now to get accessories I can use for a year plus seems worth it to me.
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  10. #30
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    Stouter Taru
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    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    Really? How so? What meld will cap out Craft 10, Control 9, CP 8, with only five materia, starting with a Control V? I'm pretty sure my math is right, but I'll be happy to stand corrected if you have a solution. Remember that Craft V provides 11 Craftsmanship, Control V provides 7 Control, and CP V provides 6 CP.
    I swore there was a way, but looking at them now it's not there. It must have been drunk math, and I'm too sober to see it now. Maybe after a few drinks I'll be able to convince myself that 7=9.
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