Players Who Don't pull their weight.

[FunkyBunch]

Click Matt's name, view all posts. That'll show you what issues people have with him.

He's pretty much the equivalent of a 12 year old on League of Legends and at this point from all of his stuff, it's just best to keep scrolling when you see Matt post something.

This. Very much this.

[Mattelot]

Click Matt's name, view all posts. That'll show you what issues people have with him. He argues with people just for the sake of arguing

No I don't. I'm not judgmental and ask questions. If you can't answer and it makes you mad, is that my fault?

most likely just trolling.

Why? Because you don't agree? Boy, that's fresh.. The old "his opinion is not the same as mine, he MUST be a troll!" comment.

Argues with people how "no one can be carried", which in fact, people can be.

I said in DF, which is tailored to minimum effort. Don't feed people half of the story.

Claims everyone who tells him how to play or gives advice(which by his posts, theres a high chance he's one of those people who don't even do basic rotations or mechanics and gets mad if someone points it out), is an elitist

Also not true. Once again (and likely not the last time), I said that people who feel the need to condescend, make fun of and are flat-out rude to people because they don't like how they play are elitists. I've said many times that offering friendly advice is not being elitist. Care for me to quote those posts? I'll gladly oblige.

and when you point out a flaw in that logic (which by that logic, tutorials are elitist to him since they tell you how to play), he goes off on how you "got told" by him and other crazy nonsense about how everyone is making up stuff just because he's never encountered it.

I'll pay you real money if you can show me where I said this.

[RiceisNice]

No, we are talking the meta rotations, ie openers and other rotations that maximize or makes there playstyle effecient.

Re-read the discussion then. We're not referring to the meta, but people playing the basics in general. If we're on the discussion on meta and effecient play, then no, I don't think that it should be expected that every single person should be capacble of such at 60. However, that's not the case here, which is what I keep trying to clarify. Trying to butt heads with the wrong context is what's causing so much of the rift. And even then, the rotations in this game aren't exactly branching either; there's always a 1-2-3 combo that straight up does damage, and another that gives some form of buffs. Utilizing the concept of combos and follow up skills sohuld honestly be something you'll get a hang of by level 15-20, especially when the game highlights those skills to begin with essentially saying "hey, press me!"

[FunkyBunch]

Geez man what's your beef with matt?

Also just look at his signature:
"I don't DPS while healing"=Troll or bad player. End of story.

[Mattelot]

Also just look at his signature:
"I don't DPS while healing"=Troll or bad player. End of story.

Judgmental much?

[Obysuca]

Shouldn't, but I'm going to take the troll bait.

I'll pay you real money if you can show me where I said this.

Also, who said anything about tutorials? Lol! I swear, when Elitists get told like it is, they really start reaching.

Keep reaching, you're about to touch the stars!

Edit: Never been kicked from a group. The majority of people saying they kick someone for being bad, I guarantee are made up.

I'm going to call BS on that one. Seems tons of 60 dragoons and never seen one do that ever.

I don't care what you expect. I'm still calling BS. I am seeing so many more made up things in these threads.

I'd like that real money now, please. Do you also want me to go back and quote where you argued that no one can be carried and people pointed out that if someone is doing no dps or is dead, that it's being carried, yet you continued to argue that its impossible to carry someone?

[Mattelot]

Still not seeing where I said tutorials are elitist. I said that condescending, making fun of and being rude to people is elitist, not tutorials. Tutorials do not say things like "omg, get out of that AOE you noob!" or "you suck, please unsubscribe!" or "you do not play to my standards, please leave!" Also, you said that I said... "everyone is making things up" when what you just quoted, shows that I said "the majority."

That being said, you've not given what I actually asked for. Now, before you realize what you've just done and edit your post to correct yourself, I will say that I admire your zeal.

[PeachPapaya]

Also just look at his signature:
"I don't DPS while healing"=Troll or bad player. End of story.

Well it's not like it isn't an arguable point, his argument hinges on the fact that dps as a healer is a moot point because dpsing as a healer is useless.

I personally think instead of going back if forth with counter arguments you show hard facts and calcluations about exactly how much dps a healer can actually do

[Mattelot]

I've never once said that anyone who questions my playstyle is an Elitist. If someone wants to make a condescending or rude remark, that's another story. What part about that do you not understand?

Also, I said P E O P L E who act like that. In case you didn't know, the game isn't a person. But if you want to continue thinking like that, I don't really know how else to explain it to you unless you're doing exactly what you falsely accused me of doing and "arguing for the sake of arguing."

I asked you to show me where I said that everyone is making things up. You did not do that. You gave an example of me saying that the majority (majority =/= all). There is no reason to resort to name calling, especially if you're going to speak for everyone else.

Do novice quests call people "noobs" and tell people to unsubscribe? Do novice quests say "if you don't play this way, stay out of my DF?"

[FunkyBunch]

Well it's not like it isn't an arguable point, his argument hinges on the fact that dps as a healer is a moot point because dpsing as a healer is useless.

I personally think instead of going back if forth with counter arguments you show hard facts and calcluations about exactly how much dps a healer can actually do

Holy does as almost much damage as Flare (the best single use raw damage AoE spell in the game) and is spammable unlike Flare. A WHM casting Holy does more damage than any other two classes combined on 3+ mobs.

It's not an arguable point at all. It's just playing terribly.