The "Removing GC Restrictions Will Increase Interest In PvP" Caveat

[kensatsu]

we can't stop to ask to remove GC restriction, till when it will be removed, players will ask.
Afterall players is asking this for 2 years already.
because it's obvious the queue can be better without this restriction.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

I certainly don't disagree with your statement, kensatsu. I suppose I should clarify my stance a bit:

If we want to attract more players to try PvP, for one, they have to have a competitive spirit (on Goblin server, I'm sad to say that is not all that common), then we need to both lead by example and be ready to teach. I'm of the camp that believes experience is the best teacher, but some players need a bit more than that. We have to be the leaders, the field commanders, the rallypoints, cheerleaders, motivators, and if necessary, the tough coaches when they need it.

I mean only to say that removal of GC restrictions will not increase interest alone. The PvP community itself will make that difference ultimately.

[Cleanse]

The long 30+ min queue times are hurting PvP.

This past week on Aether a good portion of the PvPers swapped GCs and "rebalanced" each GCs population. Queues were pretty good all week. This to me is good proof GC restrictions are hurting PvP.

[Februs]

I mean only to say that removal of GC restrictions will not increase interest alone.

You're not wrong, but it is the first step in the process.

Saying that it's the players' responsibility to be good representatives of PvP is fine and dandy, but we cannot represent a game mode which doesn't have the support of its creator. That's like asking us to be salesmen without a product to sell. Consider the selling features that we have to work with:

• Hour + queue times.
• Can't queue with friends unless in the same GC
• Inefficient time to reward ratio.
• PvP gear is useless.
• Vendors provide NO alternative uses for currency, making that currency useless.
• Limited rewards/achievements (none for healers at all).
• Rewards we do have are ridiculously difficult to get, due to lonq queues and a 1 in 3 chance of winning.

These are problems that the players cannot fix. The ball is clearly in SE's court. They have to provide a strong foundation before we can take up the torch and generate some interest on our own, because, right now, we have almost nothing to work with. Removing GC restrictions would be a HUGE first step in this process.

People queue for what they can get into. If queue times are astronomical, then there's no point in queuing. So long as people know that they can get two or three roulette's done in the time it takes to get into ONE match of PvP, then they won't even bother to queue. People want to actually play the game, not stare at a clock. They also want to play with friends, so limiting team compositions to specific GC's is no good. Remove those two problems, and it's possible that people will see PvP as a favourable queue option over other content. Throw in a better vendor system on top of that, and then we can talk about what the players can do to create a more welcoming community. SE has to put their fair share of effort in before we can, because, right now, they're not even trying to cater to the players who already play the game mode, let alone new ones.

[LalafellDown]

They should include bots in PVP, I mean I still wont queue for PVP because I find it boring, but it might help if bot were added. Just like the Chocobo racing has bots. Make queue time max 3 min if not enough players show up add bots, Depnding if you queue up for 8 24 or 72.

or make PVP fun

[Dimitrii]

They should include bots in PVP, I mean I still wont queue for PVP because I find it boring, but it might help if bot were added. Just like the Chocobo racing has bots. Make queue time max 3 min if not enough players show up add bots, Depnding if you queue up for 8 24 or 72.

or make PVP fun

Someone already made this suggestion before, it might have even been you I don't remember, but it was a bad idea then and still is now. Nobody views chocobo racing as a serious competitive mode. And you wanna pull frontlines down even closer to that level when it's already regarded as a casual non competitive form of PVP? It's fine that you don't enjoy competing against people but you should probably with hold comments then on game features which are supposed to do just that (have players compete against each other).

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

I still wont queue for PVP because I find it boring . . . or make PVP fun

This is purely your opinion, and while I respect it as such, it offers little to the discussion here. I would ask that you either be more constructive in commentary, or disregard the topic entirely as you already stated you both find it boring and wouldn't queue for it anyways.

[Zojha]

Nobody views chocobo racing as a serious competitive mode.

Which is a bit of a shame, because it has higher potential than the regular PvP modes, as it's standalone and not affected by PvE changes/mechanics.

[Cynric]

You're right . it won't magically increase interest. However restrictions in place decrease interest in pvp. Anyone new waits for 30 +mins then suddenly they're not that interested anymore. You can't even do much while in queue. Then if they picked a different gc than friends that further decreases interest. Removing something that decreases interest is just as good as adding something to increase it.